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Old 06-16-2006, 01:21 PM   #1
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*I'm not sure how this happened but the GB price was never posted. It's been added below.*

Hello all,

We are pleased to announce the release of our second generation Stage 2 2.5L Short Block. The GS650 exemplifies all of our experience building and tuning high horsepower race and street engines. The GS650 has been installed on daily-driven cars that make over 600HP on the street, safely and reliably. These are the same cars that drive to the track, run sub-11 second times and are driven home. This block is capable of maxing out the GT35R turbo (ask MARKGSTI ).

The GS650 starts life as a regular STI shortblock. First we replace the weak hyper-cast stock pistons with custom spec forged units (coated). Not only are the pistons significantly stronger than the stock units the pistons are substantially lighter too. We then address the connecting rods. The rods are replaced with Helix forged H-beam rods held together with ARP L-19 bolts. The super-strong forged rods coupled with the best rod bolts available on the market allow for high RPM operation. The crankshaft is then modified with our proprietary techniques creating a crankshaft similar to the $2000 STI race crankshaft used on the WRC cars. The bearings are swapped out in favor of Gruppe-S coated race bearings. This addresses all the common main failure points of the stock STI 2.5 engine – spun bearings, cracked pistons, and damaged rods.

The entire assembly is then balanced. Piston walls are bored and honed, all tolerances are triple checked, and the assembly is professionally assembled. The end result is a big power engine that is capable of 8500 RPM operation* and holding 650 crank HP. That’s right, 165 HP PER A CYLINDER. The GS650 is purposely built to tight tolerances for street operation. You will not experience excessive oil consumption and you will not have a rocking issue with our pistons.

Recommended Limits:

-7500RPM redline**
-30psi boost limit
-650HP reliable horsepower limit


*”Looser” race engines (not recommended for street use) are available – simply let us know if that is what you are looking for.

**8500 RPM requires substantial modifications to the head, oiling system, and other components. We have experience building high revving engines, please contact us for additional details.



Features:

-Gruppe-S / Wiseco Forged and Coated Pistons
-Coated High Performance Rod & Crankshaft bearings
-Reworked Forged STi Crankshaft
-Helix Forged H-beam Connecting Rods w/ ARP L19 bolts
-Professionally balanced and assembled (recommended 7500 RPM redline)
-Rehoned cylinder walls
-Capable of up to 650 CHP Operation
-Final Displacement 2.48L
-Compression ~8.5 : 1


MSRP: $3599
Gruppe Buy Price: $3299

Price with 2.5L block trade in (must be functional and in good shape) - $2699

Thanks,

Geoff
Phone: (510) 783-5300

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Old 06-16-2006, 01:21 PM   #2
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To kick this off, we are offering a special group buy on this motor! Build time will be approximately 2-3 weeks from close of group buy. We'll require 50% down to hold your GB spot and we'll need 5 people minimum to carry it out.

Seriously, take a good look at what we're offering in this motor. Look at the quality of the components (if you need more information on them, please PM). Then look at the competition's components and pricing. Make your own decision.

For anyone who doubts the quality of this block, Mark's STi is running this exact same motor: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1023411

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Old 06-16-2006, 02:23 PM   #3
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wow thats a smoking deal fellas! I might have to consider this motor!
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:12 PM   #4
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count me in please
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:56 PM   #5
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Damn this is a good deal, but I already got one with a citrus blend.

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Old 06-16-2006, 07:52 PM   #6
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Ill know in a week or so but this looks like what ill be going with...
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Old 06-19-2006, 12:01 PM   #7
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Very cool guys. If you'd like in on this, please paypal a 50% deposit to sales@gruppe-s.com and I'll add your name to the list. Please be sure to include a clear description of what you're paypaling for and all of your contact info.

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Old 06-21-2006, 12:17 PM   #8
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We got 1!

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Old 06-26-2006, 07:17 PM   #9
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Question, you didn't mention cost to have it installed should we live close and want to bring our car in, and also what sort of warranty you offer on the labor performed, and if the parts are manuf. warranty or gruppe-s. TIA.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:08 PM   #10
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A shortblock swap is $1500. We stand behind our products 100%; if anything goes wrong, we will inspect it, determine the cause of the failure, and if it's our fault or a manufacturer's fault, we will replace it. These motors have start-up warranties and if we're tuning your motor, you'll be in good hands warranty wise. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask them.

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Old 06-28-2006, 06:02 AM   #11
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How about a group buy with headwork also? I might be interested in something like this.

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Old 06-28-2006, 11:57 AM   #12
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Yeah we can do that. We can give you the group buy price on the block and a slightly discounted price on the heads if that works for you.

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Old 07-03-2006, 09:18 PM   #13
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Yeah we can do that. We can give you the group buy price on the block and a slightly discounted price on the heads if that works for you.

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What is a slightly discounted price? What would the total run?

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Old 07-04-2006, 01:45 PM   #14
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Hey Mike,

Please send us a PM and I'll hit you back with all the details on the heads and the pricing.

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