AR Fab "Exclusive!" Harmonic Dampers - Page 3

nonissan · 02-12-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AR Fab

BTW....you stated that Honda/Acura dont have an elastomer ring....

i didn't state that. unorthodox racing stated it. as i said, what i had posted was a direct cut and paste from unorthodox' website.

whitson01 · 02-12-2007, 11:06 AM

i find it interesting how "engine builders" such as cobb have the lightned crank pulleys for sale.. i still think it is safer/smarter to have some sort of a harmonic balancer..

**AR Fab** · 02-12-2007, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonissan

i didn't state that. unorthodox racing stated it. as i said, what i had posted was a direct cut and paste from unorthodox' website.

Sorry I didnt read that line..I was looking at the "meat" or your post.

Unorthodox Racing has designed a new damper(I think the LS1) that was released at PRI....when I questioned them about this subject I recieved a "deer in the headlight" look.....

When you talk to ATI / FluidDamper and other damper manufacturers about any 4 / 6 / 8 cylider engine you will get an earful of technical babble about why and how.

BTW guys...I leave out alot of technical info because its taken me years to learn this info and its not free.

Howard

**AR Fab** · 02-12-2007, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitson01

i find it interesting how "engine builders" such as cobb have the lightned crank pulleys for sale.. i still think it is safer/smarter to have some sort of a harmonic balancer..

You need to use the term "engine builders" loosly...

Engine Builders would suggest they have a Bore Mill / Honing machine / Rod sizing machine / Deck Plates / 3 or more Valve angle machine / valve re-surfacer / hot tank / ultrasonic cleaner / 3 axis CNC mill / Line Hone machine / crank balancing equipment and polisher and alot of other equipment....And 96% of the major shops in the US do not have this in-house.....We have this and more...

Howard

PigsXTi · 02-12-2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR Fab

You need to use the term "engine builders" loosly...

Engine Builders would suggest they have a Bore Mill / Honing machine / Rod sizing machine / Deck Plates / 3 or more Valve angle machine / valve re-surfacer / hot tank / ultrasonic cleaner / 3 axis CNC mill / Line Hone machine / crank balancing equipment and polisher and alot of other equipment....And 96% of the major shops in the US do not have this in-house.....We have this and more...

Howard

So your saying that other builders are actually sourcing out their work. Then selling it with their names on em. I'm guess'n this means either, they are getting cheap work done, or jacking the prices up in order to make any money?

**AR Fab** · 02-12-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PigsSTi

So your saying that other builders are actually sourcing out their work. Then selling it with their names on em. I'm guess'n this means either, they are getting cheap work done, or jacking the prices up in order to make any money?

Its mostly how its done DJ....BTW Im assembling yours right now...

Howard

whitson01 · 02-14-2007, 11:38 AM

hey ar, wanna have a group buy??!!

**AR Fab** · 02-14-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by whitson01

hey ar, wanna have a group buy??!!

I looked into it more closely this morning, after our pm discussion. I believe if we do a GB on this item it will have to be in the 20-30 people range to get the price just right...

Howard

***QuickSilverSTi*** · 02-14-2007, 01:21 PM

I'd be willing to throw my name in for a GB. Of course, I want one either way

**lackskill** · 02-14-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR Fab

You need to use the term "engine builders" loosly...

Engine Builders would suggest they have a Bore Mill / Honing machine / Rod sizing machine / Deck Plates / 3 or more Valve angle machine / valve re-surfacer / hot tank / ultrasonic cleaner / 3 axis CNC mill / Line Hone machine / crank balancing equipment and polisher and alot of other equipment....And 96% of the major shops in the US do not have this in-house.....We have this and more...

Howard

I wanna play?!?

whitson01 · 02-14-2007, 03:07 PM

me too..

**AR Fab** · 02-16-2007, 09:57 PM

We should see the first 5 production pieces in the next 10-15 days. I would really like to have those prior to the GB. I have a very strict quality control philosophy about the products we sell. So I want to see, touch, disassemble them and measure the tolerances first. In past years I would not have even spoke of an item like this until I already have done this but in the recent weeks I have been pressured by many teams about this product so we sped the process up.

So Game on in 10-15 days......

Howard

***QuickSilverSTi*** · 02-17-2007, 09:25 AM

Well worth the wait. That level of detail is why I'm in line. That lack of detail by other vendors is why I won't order from them.

STi_Guy04 · 02-17-2007, 08:06 PM

I am game for a GB, Cant wait to see the product

boost_happy · 02-22-2007, 04:25 PM

Yeah looking forward to a great group buy next week on this, if I can put dibs on getting on the list then count me in. thanks

02-22-2007, 04:25 PM	#45
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02-12-2007, 11:06 AM	#32
whitson01 Spec C Club Car: 06 acura tsx Fav Mod: soon to come Location: east TN Posts: 1,417 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	i find it interesting how "engine builders" such as cobb have the lightned crank pulleys for sale.. i still think it is safer/smarter to have some sort of a harmonic balancer..

02-14-2007, 11:38 AM	#37
whitson01 Spec C Club Car: 06 acura tsx Fav Mod: soon to come Location: east TN Posts: 1,417 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	hey ar, wanna have a group buy??!!

02-14-2007, 01:21 PM	#39
*QuickSilverSTi* nulla poena sine lege Car: '08 GT500 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,758 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (5)	I'd be willing to throw my name in for a GB. Of course, I want one either way

02-14-2007, 03:07 PM	#41
whitson01 Spec C Club Car: 06 acura tsx Fav Mod: soon to come Location: east TN Posts: 1,417 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	me too..

02-16-2007, 09:57 PM	#42
AR Fab Authorized Vendor Car: 02 WRX Fav Mod: 4 5500cc Injectors / Aluminum Rods Location: Winchester VA Posts: 487 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	We should see the first 5 production pieces in the next 10-15 days. I would really like to have those prior to the GB. I have a very strict quality control philosophy about the products we sell. So I want to see, touch, disassemble them and measure the tolerances first. In past years I would not have even spoke of an item like this until I already have done this but in the recent weeks I have been pressured by many teams about this product so we sped the process up. So Game on in 10-15 days...... Howard

02-17-2007, 09:25 AM	#43
*QuickSilverSTi* nulla poena sine lege Car: '08 GT500 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,758 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (5)	Well worth the wait. That level of detail is why I'm in line. That lack of detail by other vendors is why I won't order from them.

02-17-2007, 08:06 PM	#44
STi_Guy04 Amateur STI Driver Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Ported Heads & Cams Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 26 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I am game for a GB, Cant wait to see the product