COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler - Page 3

ScubaSmith7599 · 11-07-2007, 04:30 AM

My guess is thats going to be whoa $. I'm thinking way over $2k. Come guys, looks at how much a CF hood costs. Now try to make it into a bunch of pipes!

Here's what I'm worried about. Chime in, lets see what we can dismiss/look into further:

1) I'm wondering about the reliability also. How do you guys think CF is going to hold up when a rock hits it? It's structural integrity is gone at that point, and should be considered a liability and replaced. CF is great stuff for certain applications but can be damaged to be unserviceable very easily. Remember that its a fiber, so once it's "cut" it can lose its strength. If anyone here know about CF structure of bikes, you'll at least see where I'm coming from.

2) What about constant expansion/contraction from heat? This one I'm not sure on, but I'm going to guess CF expands and contracts a large amount with heat. So how would it hold up on a regular, day to day deal? What about the track? So if CF is stronger than I was thinking in number 1, what about when you mix in number 2(heat expansion)?

Mayhem13 · 11-07-2007, 06:23 AM

^^^I would think that since the end tanks are usually covered by the bumper (depending on the core size) that reliability from rock chips, etc. would not be a huge concern...although if u did somehow end up with a crack in the c/f it prob. would be the end of the intercooler...

Cobb would do good to produce a FMIC regular version with a black core and aluminum endtanks, but offer the piping in CF as an option, as well as a FMIC with the carbon end tanks, that way people could have more options if money is tight... my .02

IStoSTI · 11-07-2007, 07:02 AM

i'd be beyond interested, i'm willing to bet $2000+ though...

Pitcherman · 11-07-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ScubaSmith7599

2) What about constant expansion/contraction from heat? This one I'm not sure on, but I'm going to guess CF expands and contracts a large amount with heat. So how would it hold up on a regular, day to day deal? What about the track? So if CF is stronger than I was thinking in number 1, what about when you mix in number 2(heat expansion)?

Well you have it backwards on this one. Carbon Fibers actually have a very low heat expansion ration, and high diminsional stability. Problem would lie in its thermal conductivity. I'm not sure exactly what it is in comparison to the stainless pipes FMIC usually have but if it's greater then it would need some type of thermal coating to keep the chare pipe to the intake from heating up too much.

Mayhem13 · 11-07-2007, 08:29 AM

Trey from Cobb actually said that there are *some gains from the CF piping, however minimal they might be...its really just looks, and a large price tag to boot lol.

Kylipso · 11-07-2007, 08:35 AM

Id be worried about rock chips to, even minor cracking in carbon fiber could deteriorate rapidly, especially when introduced to rain or snow.

WRB Kid · 11-07-2007, 08:36 AM

I want to know a price and then I will see if i would buy something like this...... But That thing is amazing.

KiR DieseL · 11-07-2007, 09:01 AM

Im pretty sure its going to be 2 grand...

Where my ballers at?

**fullerton** · 11-07-2007, 09:05 AM

make an ultra-efficient TMIC and i'd be there.

snorky · 11-07-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fullerton

make an ultra-efficient TMIC and i'd be there.

+1 cobb's tmic... still just a rumor.

Kylipso · 11-07-2007, 10:10 AM

CF ultra efficient tmic :P straight ballin :P

Pitcherman · 11-07-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KiR DieseL

Where my ballers at?

COBB is USDM thus you can not has

snorky · 11-07-2007, 10:17 AM

i would assume that cf would conduct heat at a lower rate than al

tmic doesn't have to be cf, just efficient

**fullerton** · 11-07-2007, 10:23 AM

yeah, i could care less about CF. i just want a better TMIC.

Kylipso · 11-07-2007, 10:24 AM

no but the option would be cool for all the people with deep pockets :P

11-07-2007, 04:30 AM	#31
ScubaSmith7599 Grassroots STI Racer Car: Silver 05 STi Fav Mod: driving school Location: MCB Quantico, Virginia Posts: 581 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler My guess is thats going to be whoa $. I'm thinking way over $2k. Come guys, looks at how much a CF hood costs. Now try to make it into a bunch of pipes! Here's what I'm worried about. Chime in, lets see what we can dismiss/look into further: 1) I'm wondering about the reliability also. How do you guys think CF is going to hold up when a rock hits it? It's structural integrity is gone at that point, and should be considered a liability and replaced. CF is great stuff for certain applications but can be damaged to be unserviceable very easily. Remember that its a fiber, so once it's "cut" it can lose its strength. If anyone here know about CF structure of bikes, you'll at least see where I'm coming from. 2) What about constant expansion/contraction from heat? This one I'm not sure on, but I'm going to guess CF expands and contracts a large amount with heat. So how would it hold up on a regular, day to day deal? What about the track? So if CF is stronger than I was thinking in number 1, what about when you mix in number 2(heat expansion)? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

11-07-2007, 06:23 AM	#32
Mayhem13 Senior STI Driver Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: Bride Location: New Jersey Posts: 380 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler ^^^I would think that since the end tanks are usually covered by the bumper (depending on the core size) that reliability from rock chips, etc. would not be a huge concern...although if u did somehow end up with a crack in the c/f it prob. would be the end of the intercooler... Cobb would do good to produce a FMIC regular version with a black core and aluminum endtanks, but offer the piping in CF as an option, as well as a FMIC with the carbon end tanks, that way people could have more options if money is tight... my .02

11-07-2007, 07:02 AM	#33
IStoSTI Grassroots STI Racer Car: 06 OBP Subaru WRX ST Fav Mod: Too Hard to Choose! Location: PA Posts: 592 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler i'd be beyond interested, i'm willing to bet $2000+ though...

11-07-2007, 08:29 AM	#35
Mayhem13 Senior STI Driver Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: Bride Location: New Jersey Posts: 380 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler Trey from Cobb actually said that there are *some gains from the CF piping, however minimal they might be...its really just looks, and a large price tag to boot lol.

11-07-2007, 08:35 AM	#36
Kylipso Professional STI Driver Car: 2007 OBP STI with Go Fav Mod: dealer license plate delete Location: O.C. Posts: 451 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler Id be worried about rock chips to, even minor cracking in carbon fiber could deteriorate rapidly, especially when introduced to rain or snow.

11-07-2007, 08:36 AM	#37
WRB Kid Professional STI Racer Car: My06 WRB w/ Gold STi Fav Mod: Mature Diffuser!!!! Location: SoCal Posts: 640 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler I want to know a price and then I will see if i would buy something like this...... But That thing is amazing.

11-07-2007, 09:01 AM	#38
KiR DieseL Silver Member Car: Aspen White 06 STi Fav Mod: Teh Mature Diffuser Will Return! Location: Queens NYC Posts: 2,771 IWSTI Addict since: Feb 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler Im pretty sure its going to be 2 grand... Where my ballers at?

11-07-2007, 09:05 AM	#39
fullerton Halliburton Mercenary Car: AW GDF-D Fav Mod: Q-Rack Location: P&L 30R Land Posts: 17,042 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (12)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler make an ultra-efficient TMIC and i'd be there.

11-07-2007, 10:10 AM	#41
Kylipso Professional STI Driver Car: 2007 OBP STI with Go Fav Mod: dealer license plate delete Location: O.C. Posts: 451 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler CF ultra efficient tmic :P straight ballin :P

11-07-2007, 10:17 AM	#43
snorky If in doubt, flat out Car: 32J GDFDYEH Fav Mod: Fullerton's Qrack on my car Location: Chicagoland Posts: 3,805 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (23)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler i would assume that cf would conduct heat at a lower rate than al tmic doesn't have to be cf, just efficient

11-07-2007, 10:23 AM	#44
fullerton Halliburton Mercenary Car: AW GDF-D Fav Mod: Q-Rack Location: P&L 30R Land Posts: 17,042 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (12)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler yeah, i could care less about CF. i just want a better TMIC.

11-07-2007, 10:24 AM	#45
Kylipso Professional STI Driver Car: 2007 OBP STI with Go Fav Mod: dealer license plate delete Location: O.C. Posts: 451 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: COBB Tunings Carbon Fiber Front Mount Inter Cooler no but the option would be cool for all the people with deep pockets :P This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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