Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not??

jermdeez · 08-14-2007, 04:15 PM

Ok I really like the ps2's because (some of this is relative to stock tires), quiet, work really well in rain and pretty damn good in dry,

what i dont like= softer sidewall easy to wear out, seems like they could have a little more dry grip

so is there anything that will corner a little better than ps2 but still be equiv in the rain, and have a stiffer/more beefy sidewall?

I'm guessing not but any experience would be helpful.

jermdeez · 08-14-2007, 04:23 PM

someone mentioned t1r to me?

T3h_Clap · 08-15-2007, 05:47 AM

T1R sucks.

I wouldn't say they are any where near the PS2.

jph · 08-15-2007, 11:29 AM

put some more air in the ps2's and the sidewall issue becomes less obvious

J.

jermdeez · 08-15-2007, 04:08 PM

How much air should I run, been using 35 cold all around. Don't want a terrible ride but i was thinking id raise to 38

jph · 08-15-2007, 04:33 PM

38-40psi should do it.

i have one or two psi more up front, as those seem to roll on the sidewalls more than the rears.

J.

***Justin B*** · 08-15-2007, 05:03 PM

Yeah I love my PS2's. I have at least 20k on them, been to several HPDE events, drive it pretty hard and it still has some good tread left. Plus they are pretty damn sticky and good in the rain. That said I will be buying another set.

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Originally Posted by jermdeez

How much air should I run, been using 35 cold all around. Don't want a terrible ride but i was thinking id raise to 38

I do 38 in the front and 34 in the rear.

EDIT: would like to add that they are the lightest summer DOT tire I have found. Tire Rack lists tire weights.

Stee · 08-15-2007, 05:07 PM

What do you use the car for?

They just do not share the construction to be comparable to other maximum performance tires available today.

PS2s are good for the street, and I stress the word 'good'. They are comfortable, quiet, offer good wet performance and good dry performance. Comparing them to the RE070s, RE01Rs, Neovas, or even the RT615s, you would be sacrificing a huge amount of lateral grip.

FWIW, I speak from experience as I once used them on my 2004 STi as a summer tire and also autocrossed with them a few times. I can assure you that they are NOT an autocross tire in every sense of the word.

jermdeez · 08-15-2007, 09:05 PM

they come on the turbo 911, frankly I don't think they handle much worse at all than the stock tires. I think you are underestimating them to some degree at least

jermdeez · 08-15-2007, 09:09 PM

are re01r good in the rain? or crappy like stock tires in the wet.

GoodTimes · 08-15-2007, 09:12 PM

PS2's????? What brand are they?

oscargarza88 · 08-15-2007, 09:25 PM

i have them and they have worked amazing for me so far
i would defenetly get them again unless u are looking for something cheaper but still grippy... if thats not a problem i would get them agian, ps2 +1!

jph · 08-15-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodTimes

PS2's????? What brand are they?

michelin pilot sport PS2

J.

cusco · 08-15-2007, 10:53 PM

i thought you was talkina about sony playstaion 2! ps2! lol why would you buy another ps2!!

***austinpike*** · 08-16-2007, 05:59 AM

jermdeez, tried to respond to your PM but your box is full. So I'll just post up here.

I had them in 235/45/17.

1) I personally wouldn't buy a shorter tire then stock (ie 235/40 or 245/40) since the STI gearing is already so short, that just makes it shorter.
2) I prefer a slightly wider tire for grip and to protect the rim a little better.
3) The RE070 is a wide 225, basically a 235, so getting a 225 in anything else could actually end up being a narrower tire.
4) stock size on JDM STis is 235/45/17, so it must be good...

(of course it is 235 RE070, so maybe actually closer to a 245...)

I loved them in the rain, hated the mushy sidewall. As far as I can tell there is no good rain tire that has a stiff sidewall. Note that on Tirerack, a lot of the bigger diameters have an XL load rating which I assume means a beefier sidewall, and helps explain why it comes stock on all those high-end cars.

I personally look at every tire purchase as an opportunity to try something different. Last summer I needed my DD tires to do autox duty, so I'm on Azenis 615s now - I would probably do the RE01Rs next time around. Takeoff Advan A046s from the Evo are also a good option - they come up on EvolutionM.net quite a bit, basically as stiff and grippy as the 070s, but with a better rain pattern.

I actually wouldn't mind the PS2s again for DD, now that I have a dedictated autox setup, but I just feel they are a little too expensive.

08-14-2007, 04:15 PM	#1
jermdeez Spec C Club Posts: 1,762 Join Date: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? Ok I really like the ps2's because (some of this is relative to stock tires), quiet, work really well in rain and pretty damn good in dry, what i dont like= softer sidewall easy to wear out, seems like they could have a little more dry grip so is there anything that will corner a little better than ps2 but still be equiv in the rain, and have a stiffer/more beefy sidewall? I'm guessing not but any experience would be helpful. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

08-14-2007, 04:23 PM	#2
jermdeez Spec C Club Posts: 1,762 Join Date: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? someone mentioned t1r to me?

08-15-2007, 05:47 AM	#3
T3h_Clap Wheel33tist Whore Car: Aspen White GDF-D Fav Mod: Pastelito Racing / SFSOC Location: 0R!4ND0 Posts: 21,334 Join Date: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? T1R sucks. I wouldn't say they are any where near the PS2.

08-15-2007, 11:29 AM	#4
jph S204 Racer Car: the wagon Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,981 Join Date: Apr 2004 Trader Rating: (9)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? put some more air in the ps2's and the sidewall issue becomes less obvious J.

08-15-2007, 04:08 PM	#5
jermdeez Spec C Club Posts: 1,762 Join Date: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? How much air should I run, been using 35 cold all around. Don't want a terrible ride but i was thinking id raise to 38

08-15-2007, 04:33 PM	#6
jph S204 Racer Car: the wagon Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,981 Join Date: Apr 2004 Trader Rating: (9)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? 38-40psi should do it. i have one or two psi more up front, as those seem to roll on the sidewalls more than the rears. J.

08-15-2007, 05:07 PM	#8
Stee Spec C Club Car: 2008 Fitrari Red Fav Mod: Getting 40mpg Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,537 Join Date: Jan 2004 Trader Rating: (8)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? What do you use the car for? They just do not share the construction to be comparable to other maximum performance tires available today. PS2s are good for the street, and I stress the word 'good'. They are comfortable, quiet, offer good wet performance and good dry performance. Comparing them to the RE070s, RE01Rs, Neovas, or even the RT615s, you would be sacrificing a huge amount of lateral grip. FWIW, I speak from experience as I once used them on my 2004 STi as a summer tire and also autocrossed with them a few times. I can assure you that they are NOT an autocross tire in every sense of the word.

08-15-2007, 09:05 PM	#9
jermdeez Spec C Club Posts: 1,762 Join Date: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? they come on the turbo 911, frankly I don't think they handle much worse at all than the stock tires. I think you are underestimating them to some degree at least

08-15-2007, 09:09 PM	#10
jermdeez Spec C Club Posts: 1,762 Join Date: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? are re01r good in the rain? or crappy like stock tires in the wet.

08-15-2007, 09:12 PM	#11
GoodTimes Professional STI Racer Car: 07 Impreza WRX STI, Fav Mod: Track days!!! Location: Chino Ca Posts: 604 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? PS2's????? What brand are they?

08-15-2007, 09:25 PM	#12
oscargarza88 Professional STI Racer Car: 06 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Cobb Xaust! Location: Houston,tx Posts: 818 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? i have them and they have worked amazing for me so far i would defenetly get them again unless u are looking for something cheaper but still grippy... if thats not a problem i would get them agian, ps2 +1!

08-15-2007, 10:53 PM	#14
cusco Professional STI Racer Car: 2006 Aspen White STi Location: Cackramento, CA Posts: 822 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? i thought you was talkina about sony playstaion 2! ps2! lol why would you buy another ps2!!

08-16-2007, 05:59 AM	#15
*austinpike* Platinum Member Car: 2oo5 cgm STi Location: MN Posts: 1,927 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Need Guru Tire Advice Should I get PS2's Again or Not?? jermdeez, tried to respond to your PM but your box is full. So I'll just post up here. I had them in 235/45/17. 1) I personally wouldn't buy a shorter tire then stock (ie 235/40 or 245/40) since the STI gearing is already so short, that just makes it shorter. 2) I prefer a slightly wider tire for grip and to protect the rim a little better. 3) The RE070 is a wide 225, basically a 235, so getting a 225 in anything else could actually end up being a narrower tire. 4) stock size on JDM STis is 235/45/17, so it must be good... (of course it is 235 RE070, so maybe actually closer to a 245...) I loved them in the rain, hated the mushy sidewall. As far as I can tell there is no good rain tire that has a stiff sidewall. Note that on Tirerack, a lot of the bigger diameters have an XL load rating which I assume means a beefier sidewall, and helps explain why it comes stock on all those high-end cars. I personally look at every tire purchase as an opportunity to try something different. Last summer I needed my DD tires to do autox duty, so I'm on Azenis 615s now - I would probably do the RE01Rs next time around. Takeoff Advan A046s from the Evo are also a good option - they come up on EvolutionM.net quite a bit, basically as stiff and grippy as the 070s, but with a better rain pattern. I actually wouldn't mind the PS2s again for DD, now that I have a dedictated autox setup, but I just feel they are a little too expensive. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.