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Old 03-26-2004, 11:47 PM   #16
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Has anyone tried potenza S-02's or S-03's? The 02's come stock on lots of very nice cars....
Ferrari 360 Modena
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Old 03-27-2004, 04:00 PM   #17
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i have the S-03PP, and they are good all around on the street, i dont know much about Auto-x. i think they arent as stiff as the the re070, but they are grippy and hold well with lower pressures. as you dive in a turn and push into the sidewall you can feel the rounded corners start to grab. i like them, but i was real pleased with the RE070. although i might try out the KD's or the toyo ra-1 or something?
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:52 PM   #18
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Thanks doesn't sound like they would do too bad for "street" tires. Any feel for the # of events they can handle compared to Victoracers? At $640+ shipping + heat cycling for a set of Victoracers a set of slightly-used RE070's for ~$400 might be a decent way to go, and one could drive them to the track... I just do open track and a even a second a lap isn't a big deal to me. Chunking, fade, and cost is.
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:54 PM   #19
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doh virgin 225/45ZR17 is $580/set not $640. No wonder it sounded a bit high.
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Old 03-28-2004, 07:06 AM   #21
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i personally am very much looking forward to putting my RE070's back on my car. winter is gone!!! spring is here!!! my Blizzak LM-22's served me well the last 4 months. i am just very excited to get back the handling of the RE070's.
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Old 03-28-2004, 01:13 PM   #22
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i personally am very much looking forward to putting my RE070's back on my car. winter is gone!!! spring is here!!! my Blizzak LM-22's served me well the last 4 months. i am just very excited to get back the handling of the RE070's.
Just did that yesterday, Crash

I had those 070's on for one measly day and almost didnt get up my driveway
Promptly put on Blizzaks

Anyway
Its like a different car now
WOW

If these tres suck then I will just get something even better in 15k miles or so
As for now, I am real impressed

I LOVE THIS CAR!!!

Going home now to anchor down that sub in my trunk so I can really drive this thing!

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Old 03-30-2004, 05:13 PM   #23
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I've tracked my stock 070's at two events, running about 5 sessions each time.

I have about 6,000 miles on the car now, and I'd say there is still a very healthy amount of tread left.

As long as you make sure to check your alignment before track events, you should not get any chunking. I have even wear across all four.

Now, keep in mind I've only been at two track days so my driving is not going to be as intense as some other folks, but my times are respectable.

I agree with Web Foot though, depending upon the day and ambient temperature, you can get to the greasy feel after about 20 minutes, after which it's a good idea to stop pushing. My first day was a bit hotter and I got about 20 minutes (about 5 to 6 laps worth). Ambient temp was about 75 degrees.

My second track day just last weekend, I just kept going, 7 laps+ and they never got greasy. They day was cool and slightly overcast. Ambient temp was about 60 to 65 degrees.

As my driving heats up I'm sure the tire will start to feel its limits but right now, with my level, they're perfectly fine.

I think the 070s are great for daily driving and will probably get replacements when these are up.

I am interested in understanding more about some track-only tires that I might get in the future, once I develop a bit more as a driver.

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Old 03-30-2004, 06:40 PM   #24
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Everyone, please keep selling them.
I've decided to use these tires for learning to auto-cross in my Saturn this summer.
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:25 AM   #25
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Well as good as the RE70s are, an actual R-compound autocross tire is significantly better. I really like the tires, but for serious competition they are a not going to cut it.
This is me, eating my words.

I just ran my first hillclimb in the STi on these tires, and for that, they are outstanding. The grip, feel, and predictability are simply top notch for a street tire under those conditions. I was able to confidently use every inch of the road - and then some without fear that they would snap me into a spin just because half of my rear tire was hanging out over the grass on occassion.

They aren't R-compounds, but they are damn close to it in what they will allow you to do. No doubt I could have posted lower times if I had a true race tire on the car, but soiling myself in the process would have been much more likely! Regardless, the Street Modified record now has a new holder. 8)
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To me, the RE070's were good street tires for dry roads. But, for a street tire, the wear is pretty bad, as is the wet traction. In the one auto-x I actually ran on them before I had time to mount my real R comps, I found them to be "so-so" tires, heating up and getting "greasy" rather quickly, and not recovering as the day wore on. The RE070's are also *really* heavy.

For dry weather on the street, they're great. But, I don't see many purely dry days in the Northeast. And I have no need of a compromise competition tire, I have real R's. So, in my situation, the RE070's are a "nothing" tire; they don't satisfy any of my needs.
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Old 07-09-2004, 11:03 AM   #27
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The RE-070s were very nice tires for me. Better than the Falken Azenis Sport, in my opinion. They worked nicely and predictably at the track (Spokane) and at the hill climb I did (Bogus with WebFoot). Close to R compounds? No. The Toyo RA-1 is far better at the track, letting me brake way deeper than I could with the RE070s. The RE-070 is OK at autocross, but they're not even close to the RA-1, much less a Kumho or Hoosier.

Unlike Twister, I do need a compromise tire. I need a tire I can drive to events and do test and tune days on -- 20+ runs. I'm not rich enough to do that on my race tires (2-3 sets a year is more than enough, thank you). Currently I'm using the Azenis since they're decent, cheap, and relatively long lasting, but I'd definitely do the RE070s if they came down in price.
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Old 07-12-2004, 05:00 AM   #28
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Drewster,..I agree with you big time. What most people dot understand about the 070s is , you cant find a stiffer sidewall, for a tire that has such a tall side wall to begin with, AND,.at the track, you cant overdo the 070's,.you have to manage the tires, and not beat on them, and to the person who said they go away at the end of the session,...try being smoother towards the end of the session. After all we all end up worked up at the end of the session. The 070s are great, but if you kill them in their early life, its equal to not properly heat cycling a "R" tire, then asking too much of it later in in its life.

We just keep buying all we can get, as they are a great rain tire when new for track days,.dont forget sticky is still more important than wet, versus the people who go out and buy all these expensice street tires and never even think about it. Again the sidewall on the 070's are the stiffest around.
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The 070's are great tires for the first 3 laps at summit point. Afterwich, my instructor started saying things like "Dude your tires hate me"

The falkens were far more competitive and did not get as greasy and loose so quickly. After driven with my instructor in his car in which he was running the azenis, I came away impress to the level of grip that the tires produced consistently. Now my only grip with the falkens of course is weight. the damn thing is so heavy, you feel the rotating mass when accelerating. I switched between the two just for comparison and when I switched back to the 070s, the sti felt lighter and accelerated and pulled harder.

For auto-x and track days, without a doubt the falkens azenis sports are the way to go especially when they are dirt cheap. They seem better suited for track duty as a street tire. This is of course if you don't want to run R tires. The falkens outdo the 070 in the long run.
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Toyo RA-1. 235/45/17. Fits on stock rims. R-comp performance. Lasts 10-15k street miles miles with a few (3-6) track days thrown in there. Great price. All in all, an amazing summer tire that you can run at full tread and keep running past the point where all the tread disappears. Just watch out for cord.

I run Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's all year round. They're amazing tires that provide 95% of the responsiveness of the RE070s but while allowing a much smoother and quieter ride. They also last a bit longer. Their rain performance is epic. No doubt they've saved me from situations in which I'm positive the RE070s would send me into a ditch. Amazing high speed stability too. You get what you pay for. It's an amazing all-year round no snow no dirt just rain and dry tire.

If you want dry performance without having to get heat into your tires, get the Azenis, Kumho Ecsta MX, or BFG K/D. The Ecsta's take heat better than the Azenis, so they'd make a better open track tire. The KD's I haven't tried but a friend of mine with an Evo swears by them. Unfortunately, they come in left/right tires so you can't cross rotate them.

But I did like my RE070s. They lasted me 9800 miles with 6 track days thrown into them. Either I wasn't driving the car hard enough or the tires do just fine with long sessions, because the last track session I had those tires was an hour long. I saw my gas needle go from full to basically empty in one "sitting." LOL. IMHO, tires are worth more time around a track than suspension work. My otherwise stock STi had amazingly quick transitions in the Esses at Sears Point (Infineon) raceway. I pulled off laptimes in the 2:03 range for about an hour.


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