[avatarr]

I recommend you put on some RE070s (or keep them on) and drive around on them. That will teach you control.

... or better yet, find 3 friends, get their donuts, and drive around on 4 donuts.

-Jason





^^ Do not follow the above recommendation.

[UltimateLurker]

Here in Missouri, we don't get a lot of snow, maybe 5 snows all winter, and only 1 or 2 of those are 4+ inches. I'm wondering what kind of snow tires to get, I obviously don't need Blizzak's, any recommendations?

[wdb]

Originally Posted by 409industries

The stockers suck in the snow, you can get by so long as you are very careful and allow yourself extra room to stop, etc. I wouldnt recommend it though.

This is dangerous, potentially lethal, advice. Even attempting to use RE070's on snow covered roads puts you, your car, and whatever you might hit in mortal danger. The stock tires are summer-only, end of story, full stop. If you live where there is cold, wet weather, or cold, snowy weather, you need another set of tires.

I picked up some cheap kumho ASX M+S rated tires and they are FANTASTIC in the snow.

This is excellent advice. Follow it. Buy what your budget allows you to buy, but by all means do something about changing tires for winter.

[wdb]

Originally Posted by UltimateLurker

Here in Missouri, we don't get a lot of snow, maybe 5 snows all winter, and only 1 or 2 of those are 4+ inches. I'm wondering what kind of snow tires to get, I obviously don't need Blizzak's, any recommendations?

Snow is not the only consideration. What is the average temperature? How often do you get precipitation? Blizzak LM-22 and LM-25 come in H- and V-rated compositions (as do winter tires from Dunlop, Michelin, Pirelli, Hankook, and others). They are high performance winter tires. They do well in snow, certainly better than all-seasons in my experience; but they also do well in cold wet conditions, in cold dry conditions, in cold fast highway conditions. They are tires designed for high performance in cold weather. I know, blah blah blah But it's true. It took me a while to finally get the thought "Blizzak = Canadian winter" out of my head, but I'm glad I did and I encourage you to do the same.

All of that having been said, Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S are enormously popular among STi owners and may be a good choice for you. Technically rated as "all season" tires, they are nevertheless heavily biased towards winter performance.

[UltimateLurker]

Thanks for the advice .

[Pyro]

To reiterate what others have said...
Even in just cold, the RE070s turn into hockey pucks. I bought my car this summer and never thought it had as much understeer as I was led to believe, since oversteer has always been just a lift-throttle away for me. But when the temperature dropped into the mid-30s, the STi pushed to the outside of turns like nobody's business. I went and got snows put on early, simply because the stockers suck in the cold, even when it's dry. Now the snow tires work great in low temperatures, but I took an on-ramp sweeper at 110mph that had no problems on the RE070s, and...um, yeah, you shouldn't do that on snow tires. It's a tradeoff you have to make. For me, my tradeoff criteria was: I live in a locale that gets a metric ****load of snow, but I'll be visiting relatives down South for the holidays. So I went with the Wintersport M3s. They're an excellent snow tire, but have decent enough high-performance characteristics for what's prudent on public roads. (As stated previously, taking a sweeper at 110mph (which isn't prudent on public roads) is not recommended on snow tires it tends to get floaty, and floating at 110 is kinda scary...) In other words, the M3s are biased more towards snow grip than racing performance.

If you live in an area that gets cold, and occasionally snows, then get the PZero M+S or other all-season tire that's biased more towards performance. You'll just hafta be more careful when it DOES snow. If you live in a region that sees freezing temperatures in the winter, any all-season tire is gonna be better than the RE070s.

Well, I'd keep making generalizations, but I wanna keep this comment reasonably short.

[xSTIx]

In the snow..
Potenza's = Meeting with the curb, cliff, or guardrail.

Your car will continue to follow the rule of inertia above all else, including any input you might want to give regarding said rule of inertia.

If you want to bend the rule of inertia around a curve or two.. I would recommend PZero's.

[freshsti]

Used the stock tires one year and siht my pants several times.But then angain i had a contour svt with some yokohama a032r's in a snow storm in killington vermont.Talk about scary.Just do yourself a favor and get snow tires.imo

[WRX_XB9R]

Originally Posted by UltimateLurker

Here in Missouri, we don't get a lot of snow, maybe 5 snows all winter, and only 1 or 2 of those are 4+ inches. I'm wondering what kind of snow tires to get, I obviously don't need Blizzak's, any recommendations?

I use the Dunlop WinterSport M2's. The M3's are also good. These tires do really well in the small amount of snow we get here (Kansas City) but are really better than the Blizzaks on the mainly dry roads. The Dunlops are biased towards performance cars wanting good dry performance but still work on snow.

Now if I lived up north somewhere I would have the Nokian's on for maximum snow fun.

[Rev]

Yup ...

You can use the RE070s in the snow..

You can go straight and accelerate, but you won't be able to turn or brake

[Insane06STi]

Snow tires ( Blizzaks LM25 ),Just because I cant afford not to work.

[avatarr]

I'm running with the Bridgestone Blizzak Revo1's. They are evil tires.

-Jason

[Insane06STi]

Originally Posted by wdb

Snow is not the only consideration. What is the average temperature? How often do you get precipitation? Blizzak LM-22 and LM-25 come in H- and V-rated compositions (as do winter tires from Dunlop, Michelin, Pirelli, Hankook, and others). They are high performance winter tires. They do well in snow, certainly better than all-seasons in my experience; but they also do well in cold wet conditions, in cold dry conditions, in cold fast highway conditions. They are tires designed for high performance in cold weather. I know, blah blah blah But it's true. It took me a while to finally get the thought "Blizzak = Canadian winter" out of my head, but I'm glad I did and I encourage you to do the same.

All of that having been said, Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S are enormously popular among STi owners and may be a good choice for you. Technically rated as "all season" tires, they are nevertheless heavily biased towards winter performance.

Yeah because of this post,I bought LM25`s.

[BillFromTR]

I left the stockers on last winter and being that I'm broke, I'll be doing it again.
Bill

[Grunt]

This will be my second winter on stocks! Survived an Ohio winter while driving 30+ miles a day. Now i will be driving through a new Jersey winter! Had no issues! And remember, most accidents are caused by driving errors!

Drive slower, don't tail gate, leave earlier for work!