Is this fixable? nail in tire

STIfrog · 05-25-2008, 01:39 PM

Saw this yesterday when I was in the parking garage. Passenger side front, about 3/4 inch from the sidewall. Is this patchable/pluggable or am I going to have to fork over 200 for a new tire? Tires have only 6K miles on them.

I've never owned a 4WD vehicle before, is this going to cause any issues if I have to replace the tire?

USNSTI · 05-25-2008, 02:06 PM

Easily fixable. Most places will either do it for free or next to nothing. Don't sweat it man.

Pitcherman · 05-25-2008, 03:41 PM

That's pretty close to the sidewall, meaning they are going to want to plug it, which with a Z rated tire is a big no no. If they can't patch it then don't plug it, and if you do plug it don't push your speeds above highway speeds.

***Szumita*** · 05-25-2008, 03:43 PM

get it patched, its kinda close to the sidewall..

or try to find a re070 takeoff. theres alot around

USNSTI · 05-25-2008, 03:46 PM

I have never heard of a problem with a patch or a plug on any tire at any speed. If it wasn't safe then shops wouldn't do it. Period. Do you really think a shop would leave themselves open for that kind of liability? Really this is the type of question you need to go to a professional (tire shop) instead of a bunch of amateurs (internet) As you can see you already have conflicting info. I still say that should be an easy fix for any shop....

Pitcherman · 05-25-2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USNSTI

I have never heard of a problem with a patch or a plug on any tire at any speed. If it wasn't safe then shops wouldn't do it. Period. Do you really think a shop would leave themselves open for that kind of liability? Really this is the type of question you need to go to a professional (tire shop) instead of a bunch of amateurs (internet) As you can see you already have conflicting info. I still say that should be an easy fix for any shop....

Not calling myself a proffesional, but I worked repairing tires for 2.5 yrs during and after highschool.

USNSTI · 05-25-2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitcherman

Not calling myself a proffesional, but I worked repairing tires for 2.5 yrs during and after highschool.

Nope I wouldn't call you a professional either.

Heres a product service bulletin about repairing speed rated tires. It is from Goodyear, not Bridgestone, but I would imagine the policies would be similar.

Goodyear: U.S. Government Sales - Police Tires

Yes, you can repair speed rated tires with a puncture in the tread area.

Again only the professional who is going to do the repair can make the final determination. I am still guessing it will be fine and you should definetely ask about it before just buying new tires.

Pitcherman · 05-25-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by USNSTI

Goodyear: U.S. Government Sales - Police Tires

Yes, you can repair speed rated tires with a puncture in the tread area.

I never said it couldn't be done, I said don't let them do it with just a plug. Even the method you linked uses a plug/patch combo. The problem I for see the OP running into is they may not be able to get a patch on that close to the sidewall, which in-turn may drive them to just try and plug it and that is still a no no for a Z rated tire.

***jnprn2003*** · 05-25-2008, 04:16 PM

Plug it and call it a day. As long as it is not IN the sidewall you will be fine.

sti_rules · 05-25-2008, 04:47 PM

I had that exact same thing happen to me and I plugged it. I've plugged probable 10 tires in the last 10 years so I'm no expert, but that tire is tough to plug. The tread wall is super stiff and the belting is very tightly woven. It took all 200 pounds of me, and lots of cursing, to wrestle that plug in there! After is was in there was 100% no leak, but it did have an odd vibration from then on out. Just my 2 cents.

Acejam2k · 05-26-2008, 08:45 AM

I hate to break it to you, but thats probably not fixable.

The reason is the nail is too close to the sidewall. On the inside of the tire at that spot, the tire material is flexing/curved. I had a tire shop try and patch it, and they simply couldn't, it leaked air after doing the patch using a bubble test.

I just had a nail right in that spot on both my rear left AND rear right. Was a *****, I just ended up buying two new RE-01R's, and putting them up front. (sti front heavy = make them wear quicker to even out to the rears)

sleepsindirt · 05-26-2008, 08:58 AM

buy a new tire.we are talking about a sti here,not a festiva

flamin · 05-26-2008, 09:12 AM

if u need a tire let me know i have the exact same 1 came off my 07 sti with like 12k on it... still good

mcbst · 05-26-2008, 09:19 AM

i think the general rule is the hole should be at least 1 inch from the sidewall to patch it patches are better than plugs but i have used plugs for 20 yrs never had a failure or even a blow out or horriable accident and have plugged plenty of z rated tires and then drove way too fast with them the problems i have had with a plug close to the sidewall is it does'nt hold forever usally just long enough to wear the tire out and need to replace it can't say if you should or should not but you can for sure

STIfrog · 05-26-2008, 12:44 PM

I don't know what to do

I posted this elsewhere and got a similar set of conflicting replies.

05-25-2008, 01:39 PM	#1
STIfrog STI Driver Car: 06 STI Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 226 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Is this fixable? nail in tire Saw this yesterday when I was in the parking garage. Passenger side front, about 3/4 inch from the sidewall. Is this patchable/pluggable or am I going to have to fork over 200 for a new tire? Tires have only 6K miles on them. I've never owned a 4WD vehicle before, is this going to cause any issues if I have to replace the tire? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-25-2008, 02:06 PM	#2
USNSTI Silver Member Car: OBP 07 STI Fav Mod: Boost gauge Location: San Diego Posts: 1,424 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire Easily fixable. Most places will either do it for free or next to nothing. Don't sweat it man.

05-25-2008, 03:41 PM	#3
Pitcherman Village Idiot Car: 04 JVP STi Fav Mod: Blitz NUR Spec R Location: B.F.E, Texas Posts: 7,960 Join Date: Apr 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire That's pretty close to the sidewall, meaning they are going to want to plug it, which with a Z rated tire is a big no no. If they can't patch it then don't plug it, and if you do plug it don't push your speeds above highway speeds.

05-25-2008, 03:43 PM	#4
*Szumita* i eat cones Car: 08.5 GTI MKv Fav Mod: 18x8 Location: ma & ri Posts: 6,725 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (21)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire get it patched, its kinda close to the sidewall.. or try to find a re070 takeoff. theres alot around

05-25-2008, 03:46 PM	#5
USNSTI Silver Member Car: OBP 07 STI Fav Mod: Boost gauge Location: San Diego Posts: 1,424 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire I have never heard of a problem with a patch or a plug on any tire at any speed. If it wasn't safe then shops wouldn't do it. Period. Do you really think a shop would leave themselves open for that kind of liability? Really this is the type of question you need to go to a professional (tire shop) instead of a bunch of amateurs (internet) As you can see you already have conflicting info. I still say that should be an easy fix for any shop....

05-25-2008, 04:16 PM	#9
*jnprn2003* The Stig II Car: 07 STi, 07 Speed 3.. Fav Mod: EFI Logics tune Location: The Ocean State Posts: 2,127 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire Plug it and call it a day. As long as it is not IN the sidewall you will be fine.

05-25-2008, 04:47 PM	#10
sti_rules Junior STI Driver Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: I like it all! Location: Waynesboro, VA Posts: 183 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire I had that exact same thing happen to me and I plugged it. I've plugged probable 10 tires in the last 10 years so I'm no expert, but that tire is tough to plug. The tread wall is super stiff and the belting is very tightly woven. It took all 200 pounds of me, and lots of cursing, to wrestle that plug in there! After is was in there was 100% no leak, but it did have an odd vibration from then on out. Just my 2 cents.

05-26-2008, 08:45 AM	#11
Acejam2k Professional STI Driver Car: 07 CGM STi Fav Mod: For those 13 seconds or less, I'm free! Location: Concord, MA Posts: 424 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire I hate to break it to you, but thats probably not fixable. The reason is the nail is too close to the sidewall. On the inside of the tire at that spot, the tire material is flexing/curved. I had a tire shop try and patch it, and they simply couldn't, it leaked air after doing the patch using a bubble test. I just had a nail right in that spot on both my rear left AND rear right. Was a *****, I just ended up buying two new RE-01R's, and putting them up front. (sti front heavy = make them wear quicker to even out to the rears)

05-26-2008, 08:58 AM	#12
sleepsindirt Professional STI Driver Car: 08white sti gold bbs Fav Mod: emblem delete Posts: 410 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire buy a new tire.we are talking about a sti here,not a festiva

05-26-2008, 09:12 AM	#13
flamin Amateur STI Driver Car: STi Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 39 Join Date: Sep 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire if u need a tire let me know i have the exact same 1 came off my 07 sti with like 12k on it... still good

05-26-2008, 09:19 AM	#14
mcbst Junior STI Driver Car: blue 05 wrx sti Posts: 75 Join Date: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire i think the general rule is the hole should be at least 1 inch from the sidewall to patch it patches are better than plugs but i have used plugs for 20 yrs never had a failure or even a blow out or horriable accident and have plugged plenty of z rated tires and then drove way too fast with them the problems i have had with a plug close to the sidewall is it does'nt hold forever usally just long enough to wear the tire out and need to replace it can't say if you should or should not but you can for sure

05-26-2008, 12:44 PM	#15
STIfrog STI Driver Car: 06 STI Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 226 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is this fixable? nail in tire I don't know what to do I posted this elsewhere and got a similar set of conflicting replies. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.