[kyle sti]

from what i know, when i bolted up my stock bbs' with ray's extended nuts, i made sure to torque them down to 80lbs. As i was tightening it, it looked like it made contact with the wheel around the taper. some people said it should be fine, but some are saying not? i don't know who to believe.

[Dirty Bird 15]

Originally Posted by kyle sti

from what i know, when i bolted up my stock bbs' with ray's extended nuts, i made sure to torque them down to 80lbs. As i was tightening it, it looked like it made contact with the wheel around the taper. some people said it should be fine, but some are saying not? i don't know who to believe.

If it helps, I was at Super Autobacs in Tokyo Bay the other week and I was told by the pit mechanics that it would fit but, since the taper and shape is different it results in uneven torque on the wheel. And this will eventually cause your wheels to fall off as seen the previously posted video. This was with the Kics R26 neo chrono lug nuts, may be different for other lug nuts.

[kyle sti]

well these how the ray's look:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r.../rays_lugs.jpg

and how the kics look:
http://evasivemotorsports.com/mercha...40_neochro.jpg

[T3h_Clap]

Originally Posted by BenW

less contact on the wheel means less force holding the wheel to your car.

here is an extreme example of what can go wrong:
YouTube - rx7 wheels fall off during autocross

the wheels fell off b/c he had the wrong thread pitch lugs, not b/c the lugs were incorrectly seated.

[white04sti]

Originally Posted by T3h_Clap

the wheels fell off b/c he had the wrong thread pitch lugs, not b/c the lugs were incorrectly seated.

so do you think i will have problems clap i only use my car for a DD

[T3h_Clap]

Originally Posted by white04sti

so do you think i will have problems clap i only use my car for a DD

the stock lugs do a have a shorter taper than the aftermarket lugs.

personally, i wouldn't.

no point except for looks.

It's always best to use lugs designed for the wheel you're using.

[Cr8zyJAP07]

Originally Posted by Dirty Bird 15

dosen't work. OEM have a different taper from the 60 degree tuner nuts. also the OEM nuts have a more acorn shape and the kics have a conical. the lug nuts will go on, but there will be less surface area contact. which is a potentially bad situation. My information is from Justin at evasive motorsports.

off topic but. dirty bird are you japanese? na i just bought volk long type lugs and im waiting for my 57maximum to come in. they should fit good rite?

[white04sti]

Originally Posted by T3h_Clap

the stock lugs do a have a shorter taper than the aftermarket lugs.

personally, i wouldn't.

no point except for looks.

It's always best to use lugs designed for the wheel you're using.

Thanks your help Clap

IN CLAP WE TRUST

[BenW]

Originally Posted by T3h_Clap

the wheels fell off b/c he had the wrong thread pitch lugs, not b/c the lugs were incorrectly seated.

I know, but it's still a video of wheels coming off. Have a flair for the dramatic, Drew!

[T3h_Clap]

Originally Posted by BenW

I know, but it's still a video of wheels coming off. Have a flair for the dramatic, Drew!

Just don't want people to think that this happens on a regular basis.

funny video though.

car just goes "plop"

[ATTI2D]

So tapered lugs are designed for most aftermarket rims? How about Work Emotions? I just bought a set and was looking for lugs.

[azndrgnkid]

Sorry if this is a thread jack, but it's on the same topic. I just bought some Volk CE28's. What are my choices with good lugs? I've researched and saw that the Volk lugs are made of aluminum which are too soft and fades easy. Kicks R26 Neo Chro are pretty expensive. Everyone seems to swear by the McGards. Would I have any problems with the "taper" topic?

Edit: Nevermind, I didnt read above that the OP is trying to use after market lugs on OEM stock wheels and that was where the warning about the taper situation came from. I should have no problem with my Volks. My apologies.

[Dirty Bird 15]

Originally Posted by Cr8zyJAP07

off topic but. dirty bird are you japanese? na i just bought volk long type lugs and im waiting for my 57maximum to come in. they should fit good rite?

No, I am actually from NYC and living in Tokyo as a foreign exchange student.

よろしくお願いします。
トムです。

[ReCoRdTiMe]

Going back to my original post I found out that the "Group A" lugs will work on
stock BBS. Down side is they come in black only.