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Old 07-23-2008, 05:56 AM   #1
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Default 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

Anyone else experiencing this? Under moderate loads (normal acceleration with the AC on) I get a hell of a stumble at 2600-2700 rpm. First and second are most notable, probably because you go through the spot so much more slowly in higher gears. I want to see if others are having this same problem before I ask Cobb to take a look.

I know, a protune will take care of it, but I want to do a few more things to the car before a protune and the nearest tuner isn't very close.


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Old 07-23-2008, 06:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

mine does it as well only when the car isn't warmed up.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:00 PM   #3
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

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Anyone else experiencing this? Under moderate loads (normal acceleration with the AC on) I get a hell of a stumble at 2600-2700 rpm. First and second are most notable, probably because you go through the spot so much more slowly. I want to see if others are having this same problem before I ask Cobb to take a look.

I know, a protune will take care of it, but I want to do a few more things to the car before a protune and the nearest tuner isn't very close.
Mine stumbled slightly in that range on the the Perrin and Cobb map. Never happened on stage 1.
BTW this only happens when your driving normal and not WOT.
I called Cobb and they said it was normal.

On my latest Perrin S2 map I have had a more pronounced stumble in that same range about 3 times. I may have had the AC on each time, but not sure.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:15 PM   #4
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

Mine does with the cobb 1.01 stage1, and perrin 1.00 stage1, both 93octane. I'm using Perrin rev3 and it has no stumble, that's the only one I would use, I drive way more in part throttle than WOT so I want smoothness, even if the other 2 maps are bit more HP.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:24 PM   #5
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

v1.01 of the stage 1 91 octane map does it, too. it's almost as if the turbo comes on boost then backs off. 1st and 2nd are the worst but that simply may be a function of the gearing.

i don't remember it being the case with the v1.0 stage 1 93 octane cobb or the stg 1 93 octane perrin maps i ran before.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:31 PM   #6
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

Y'know, i thought i was just being too sensitive or something, but i do feel mine do that, part throttle, below 3k, 2nd gear usually. Good to know i'm not imagining things, that the slight stumble from time to time is for real. I swear it happens more now in the hot summer days than when i first flashed it.
I'm Stage1, Cobb 1.01, 91ACN
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:45 PM   #7
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

my car is 100% stock,i noticed it a few times the other day after i reset the ecu.its fine now.i think she is just a slow learner
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:49 AM   #8
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

I don't get a stumble, but a bit of a dip in power. You can see it on the Stage 1 dyno graph, which is where I am right now.
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:53 PM   #9
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

Edit.

Nevermind - 08's not 07 ....
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

the stumble is the cruise avcs mapping.
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:27 PM   #11
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

i really notice a dip when the ac is on, when its off, no stutter. also when the ac is on i notive lag at really low rpm's like 1000RPM, when its off, smooth as butter. maybe its that.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:32 AM   #12
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

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the stumble is the cruise avcs mapping.
Uh, what? Why is cruise affecting it when I'm accelerating in second gear?
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

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v1.01 of the stage 1 91 octane map does it, too. it's almost as if the turbo comes on boost then backs off. 1st and 2nd are the worst but that simply may be a function of the gearing.

i don't remember it being the case with the v1.0 stage 1 93 octane cobb or the stg 1 93 octane perrin maps i ran before.
Well, I would think others are thinking this so here goes.. I was under the impression these stage1/2 tunes were smoothing out the stock curves etc...

If thats the case what is going on here ?
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Old 08-11-2008, 08:16 AM   #14
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

I have absolutely no stumble in any gear under any load with ac in any position. I have a stock 08.
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Default Re: 2700 rpm stumble on Cobb Stage 2 map?

I too have a slight flat spot between between 2250-2750 on my stg 1.01 91 acn. Im also using 93 oct gas.

On a side note, during full throttle, looking at boost even in this low octane map I am still going a pound a half over target.


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