FYI on OEM Oil

***Blip*** · 06-25-2008, 08:45 PM

Chris, mixed bag here again on your fresh 5000 mile machine. Fuels is still up there but combustion efficiency is great. Wear control better but silver, copper, and aluminum are worth watching closely. The OEM oils are not up to muster as they ended up as SAE 20 oils. I am not so worried about vis stability as wear control and fighting fuels effects on engine longer term.

Summary :

1.46% fuels dilute limiting drain interval and stressing the heck out of the oil.
RLI BIOSYN can be used to 3000-4000 miles but if raced limit to 3000 until we verify wear is in control. If you choose to sample without draining all of the RLI out.
Change air filter unless its brand new. OEM or fram paper un-oiled type recommended.
Sample the New RLI fluid at 3000-4000 and we shall go from there. Hopefully I get you low wear and lower fuels both!

At YOUR service, Terry

Terry Dyson , Owner-Chief Tribologist

DysonAnalysis

**onlytakes4** · 06-25-2008, 10:53 PM

huh??

GhoSStRyda · 06-26-2008, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by onlytakes4

huh??

ditto

sounded like someone talking about oil tho?

darrenbt · 06-26-2008, 07:59 AM

Looks like the OP sent in his oil for analysis and the person/company doing the analysis did not like the oil he was using (which appears to be the OEM oil) and stated that he feels it is of a lower quality and needs to be changed more regularily...

But I agree, post was/is a littel confusing...

Subw00er · 06-26-2008, 09:02 AM

so what does mr smartypants recommend using?

**onlytakes4** · 06-26-2008, 09:35 AM

Is he saying that he did his first oil change at 5k? On the 08 Sti it suggests changing the oil every 3750. Iirc, on my 06 it suggested changing oil every 5k under normal driving conditions but I don't know a single STi driver that drives his car normally. lol.

**onlytakes4** · 06-26-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subw00er

so what does mr smartypants recommend using?

I'm not really sure, but my recommendation for Mr. Smartypants is to get a girlfriend, ASAP.

MaStA · 06-26-2008, 09:43 AM

I think this was supposed to be a response to a thread I was reading yesterday about someone having their oil tested with high iron and lead levels. Somehow it seems it became its own thread.

EDIT - I was talking about this thread http://www.iwsti.com/forums/engine-p...n-content.html

But seeing as that guy's name is Dan and the OP is referring to a Chris I have no clue...so count me out

**fullerton** · 06-26-2008, 09:55 AM

Not sure what the confusion is here.

Looks like the OP posted oil analysis results.

Said results show:
high metal wear
low oil viscosity at temp
need for shorter change intervals (how old was this oil?)
high fuel concentration in oil
need for a new air filter...

***Szumita*** · 06-26-2008, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subw00er

so what does mr smartypants recommend using?

Tortfeasor STi · 06-26-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullerton

Not sure what the confusion is here.

Looks like the OP posted oil analysis results.

Said results show:
high metal wear
low oil viscosity at temp
need for shorter change intervals (how old was this oil?)
high fuel concentration in oil
need for a new air filter...

Exactly. Good thing someone knows how to read a UOA...

***boondocksaint*** · 06-26-2008, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Szumita

Your grasp of smilies in mind-numbing. Please post something useful in the future.

snorky · 06-26-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boondocksaint

Your grasp of smilies in mind-numbing. Please post something useful in the future.

Oh Snap!

rmo55c · 06-26-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortfeasor STi

Exactly. Good thing someone knows how to read a UOA...

ding ding ding. I've never sent my oil in for analysis and I could still understand this thing completely. Interesting info, but a little background would be better. How long was the oil in, how was it run, etc.

***solovus*** · 06-26-2008, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorky

Quote:

Originally Posted by boondocksaint

Your grasp of smilies in mind-numbing. Please post something useful in the future.

Oh Snap!

Irony at it's best.

06-25-2008, 08:45 PM	#1
*Blip* Platinum Member Car: LYE DGM BBS/NAV Fav Mod: Debadge, Fast and EZ. Location: Any city USA Posts: 273 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	FYI on OEM Oil Chris, mixed bag here again on your fresh 5000 mile machine. Fuels is still up there but combustion efficiency is great. Wear control better but silver, copper, and aluminum are worth watching closely. The OEM oils are not up to muster as they ended up as SAE 20 oils. I am not so worried about vis stability as wear control and fighting fuels effects on engine longer term. Summary : 1.46% fuels dilute limiting drain interval and stressing the heck out of the oil. RLI BIOSYN can be used to 3000-4000 miles but if raced limit to 3000 until we verify wear is in control. If you choose to sample without draining all of the RLI out. Change air filter unless its brand new. OEM or fram paper un-oiled type recommended. Sample the New RLI fluid at 3000-4000 and we shall go from there. Hopefully I get you low wear and lower fuels both! At YOUR service, Terry Terry Dyson , Owner-Chief Tribologist DysonAnalysis This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

06-25-2008, 10:53 PM	#2
onlytakes4 Gold Member Car: 08 WRB STi Fav Mod: ditching the cats Location: South OC, CA Posts: 385 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: FYI on OEM Oil huh??

06-26-2008, 07:59 AM	#4
darrenbt Junior STI Driver Car: 08 DGM STI Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 96 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: FYI on OEM Oil Looks like the OP sent in his oil for analysis and the person/company doing the analysis did not like the oil he was using (which appears to be the OEM oil) and stated that he feels it is of a lower quality and needs to be changed more regularily... But I agree, post was/is a littel confusing...

06-26-2008, 09:02 AM	#5
Subw00er STI Driver Car: White/Gold '08 STi Fav Mod: Right foot Location: NY Posts: 292 IWSTI Addict since: Feb 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: FYI on OEM Oil so what does mr smartypants recommend using?

06-26-2008, 09:35 AM	#6
onlytakes4 Gold Member Car: 08 WRB STi Fav Mod: ditching the cats Location: South OC, CA Posts: 385 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: FYI on OEM Oil Is he saying that he did his first oil change at 5k? On the 08 Sti it suggests changing the oil every 3750. Iirc, on my 06 it suggested changing oil every 5k under normal driving conditions but I don't know a single STi driver that drives his car normally. lol.

06-26-2008, 09:43 AM	#8
MaStA Grassroots STI Racer Car: WRB 06 STi Fav Mod: Letting the intake breathe Location: Grand Blanc, MI Posts: 538 IWSTI Addict since: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: FYI on OEM Oil I think this was supposed to be a response to a thread I was reading yesterday about someone having their oil tested with high iron and lead levels. Somehow it seems it became its own thread. EDIT - I was talking about this thread http://www.iwsti.com/forums/engine-p...n-content.html But seeing as that guy's name is Dan and the OP is referring to a Chris I have no clue...so count me out Last edited by MaStA; 06-26-2008 at 09:46 AM.

06-26-2008, 09:55 AM	#9
fullerton Halliburton Mercenary Car: AW GDF-D Fav Mod: Q-Rack Location: P&L 30R Land Posts: 17,087 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (12)	Re: FYI on OEM Oil Not sure what the confusion is here. Looks like the OP posted oil analysis results. Said results show: high metal wear low oil viscosity at temp need for shorter change intervals (how old was this oil?) high fuel concentration in oil need for a new air filter...

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