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Old 08-17-2008, 09:35 PM   #46
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Default Re: RA Mudflaps Installation Problem? (pics)

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Well here's an update. Since my post I went back out and re-worked it. I was only able to do one side before the light went away.
When there is appropriate light available we would recommend reviewing the installation instructions and the tips that we have included in this thread.

Users perform this installation fairly regularly, but we are also available to assist with any questions users may have. (note your example in performing the very first step of the installation above).

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However I do wanna say that for $134 I can't say I'm really pleased with this install. And it appears I am also missing a medium sized screw I noticed for the right front mount so I'll have to hit up a hardware store for one of those tomorrow :\
The installation hardware included has undergone multiple counts and weighings prior to your packaging. If there is an issue, please contact us directly to confirm your hardware so we can resolve for you as soon as possible.

As stated previously in this thread-

There are sometimes questions that may arise that require individual attention due to the variety of factors that may come in to play. Thus, it would be best to communicate directly with us to discern your particular installation method.


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Old 08-18-2008, 02:27 PM   #47
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Default Re: RA Mudflaps Installation Problem? (pics)

To start, I quote: "I was frustrated too, but in seeing the rock chip threads, I'm okay with a tiny body line being off. (*I fixed mine after the pictures I posted and got it looking a lot better after taking off a spacer on the affected screw*)"

I had yet another go at it today and by modifying the install I was able to get it as flush as possible. Here's what I did to solve the flushness + the screw issue.

I simply removed the washer from the outside of the mudflap on the two problem areas. Then to create a flusher look I simply put a washer on the reverse side of the upper most screw on the mudflap. The nub that you put into the bracket does not give enough height to create a flush look, so by adding one washer it makes it look a bit better. The only way it could be any more flush is by putting as was mentioned dual-sided velcro tape between the top screw on the mudflap and the middle screw. This can be seen below:



If a 2nd small washer is added (which I tried as well) it makes it push too far out and a gap is created. Now look, Mr. Rallyarmor you can tell me 9 times to screw everything in tight and follow the guide exactly but I am telling you without doing this it will not sit flusher. I've spent like easily 6-8 hours on this frigging thing and by doing it this way, it's the only way I could get it as close to as I think it should look. As in, flush, and the body pieces lining up like they were without the flaps on. Yes, all the pop screws are in tight. Yes, I put everything back in the same order as was instructed. I've become a master of popping these two pieces in and out now--I've probably done it 15 times.

I would recommend it to anyone else having fitment issues. This IS a fitment issue RA. You can call it user error on our part but I know a design flaw when I see one. There are plenty of other ways this flap could've been designed to avoid these issues. Regardless, I still do like the flaps even though they were a b*tch to install and I am sure they'll hold up nice. Don't take my complaints as a complete negative. I still think it's a nice product it's just that it doesn't "just fit on there if you follow the instructions". But I'm not just gonna take your answer of "install it when there is ample light." Thanks, I did it with full light out. I got frustrated, ate, and when I came back out it was dark.


Here's my end results with my own method.









Velcro may or may not be in my future. Derno if I want to be that anal about it.

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Old 08-18-2008, 02:47 PM   #48
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I just installed a set of the basic mudflaps yesterday. The pictures in the instructions are horrible! I had to guess to find out what I was looking at. I did it in the middle of the day too so I had plenty of light. I finally got the driver front one on after maybe an hour of guessing what I was doing and after that, the other three went on quickly. I too have gaps between the fender cover and the mudflap and I also have bulges in the fender cover over the screws for the mounting bracket. I made sure that everything was tight before I put the mudflap on and it still bulged. I don't really think it looks bad though so I'm not too worried but maybe instructing us to use flat headed screws instead of round ones would be best. They do look good on my car though and I'm glad that I have to worry less about kicking up rocks.
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:36 PM   #49
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Hi Sys

Glad to see you have resolved, but is important to note-

This has been addressed for existing users who have reached out to us directly as we have requested.

In an effort to assist customers - we researched various ways streamline the user installation process on a variety of our test vehicles based on some of the users feedback from this thread.

To start-

As we have mentioned previously in this thread, the "looseness" of the fender cover is an occurance due to the design of the clips securing the cover to the body. Again, here is another image of a stock vehicle fender cover area and how it is in relation to the body.

This vehicle has not been modified or undergone a mud flap installation as evidenced by the debris/dirt/chips/mud in the unprotected area)




Incorporating components within this tight area is key. After multiple tests, in early July we began to include flatheads in addition to the existing hardware within the package, as well as providing these options to users who have reached out to us directly.

Users have the option of using the flathead type hardware (no washer needed) on the outer portion of the bracket points in this manner:




Although very small, it can assist folks with the reinstallation by providing an additional amount of additional clearance as shown in relation to a standard head:




As a side, adding velcro to the mud flap is not advised.

Thanks for your support,

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Old 08-18-2008, 04:52 PM   #50
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Default Re: RA Mudflaps Installation Problem? (pics)

Yeah flat's would definitely be the way to go but it's all good, I got it on in the end anyway. Thx again for the reply!
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:58 PM   #51
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Thank you Sys,

We value and encourage our users input and try assist in any capacity should the need arise.

Thanks again for your support, enjoy your new UR setup
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:26 PM   #52
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Default Re: RA Mudflaps Installation Problem? (pics)

Installed my flaps today.

I did find the videos helpful (here on subie.tv)

My only comment regarding the installation -- I did the rear installation with the click bracket. I found that when I punched the hole from front to back, lining it up with the bracket was difficult. It was much easier to just install the bracket and then punch through the bracket rear to front and make the hole that way.

You guys are right about the lack of undercoating in this area. I pre-undercoated the brackets, but then sprayed the whole area after the install.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:49 PM   #53
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Default Re: RA Mudflaps Installation Problem? (pics)

After reading this thread I went outside into the garage and using needle nose pliers I tightened everything up as I noticed it felt like they never got tight when doing installation. They now sit pretty much flush. They definitely look a lot better now than before.


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