[rj45]

Originally Posted by skeetskeet

I wouldn't say my car ran poorly with the Perrin map(93 Oct), but the Cobb map(91 Oct) does seem to feel better(faster) and it runs less boost. Ive reloaded the Perrin map several times and always go back to the Cobb 91 Oct map.

Out of curiosity, why aren't you running Cobb's 93 Octane map? I'm assuming you have 93 available locally since you've tried Perrin's 93 map. TIA

[skeetskeet]

Originally Posted by rj45

Out of curiosity, why aren't you running Cobb's 93 Octane map? I'm assuming you have 93 available locally since you've tried Perrin's 93 map. TIA

We have 92 Octane locally. The Perrin 93 Octane map will work with 92 Octane, but the Cobb will not.

[Spaceman]

Does anyone know how much I can get the maps from Perrin for? If I already have the Cobb AP. Or can I purchase them from someone here? Thanks.

[fungool]

I noticed some people requesting maps for higher altitude. Are there any maps specifically for lower altitudes such as south Florida, or is that how the AP maps are designed?

[Spaceman]

If I wanted to take my car to a shop to have it tuned, they wouldn't be able to tune it with just the Cobb AP correct?

[Subw00er]

Originally Posted by Spaceman

If I wanted to take my car to a shop to have it tuned, they wouldn't be able to tune it with just the Cobb AP correct?

The shop needs to be licensed to use the protune software. I believe they apply for it and if granted, COBB gives them the license key and software that allows them to tune the AP and generate custom maps. DSG is in this process now, hopefully they will be able to tune my car in the future because I really am only interested in using the AP, not a straight ECU tune.

[Brand]

I'll hopefully be getting a downpipe and protune soon here at ~5400 feet elevation. I'll report back on the tweaks that are needed.

[Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Subw00er

The shop needs to be licensed to use the protune software. I believe they apply for it and if granted, COBB gives them the license key and software that allows them to tune the AP and generate custom maps. DSG is in this process now, hopefully they will be able to tune my car in the future because I really am only interested in using the AP, not a straight ECU tune.

Ok... So if the shop was licensed and had the key and software they could dyno tune my car and I wouldn't need to purchase and install anything like an AFC?

[mboulton]

I vote for the current map settings. I have yet to buy an AP yet, but I like the idea very much of an uber economy mode with minimal boost, and two increasingly aggressive modes.

cheers to PERRIN performance



Perrin mapping uses the 3 different modes for 3 different boost levels.
I- Is set to 9psi, which is boost control is nearly turned off. Same less aggressive in the lower RPM and lower accelerator positions. From 6000RPM on up the throttle starts to close. So super super good gas mileage mode.
S-Set to about 16psi, same low end throttle response as stock S# setting, but more aggressive at really low RPM.
S#-Set to 18psi, Same low end throttle resonse as stock S#.

[tshrey]

All this talk of economy mode - I suffered through two tanks of gas running totally on I mode and then two on S# (Cobb stage 1 map). There was a whopping .5 mpg difference and driving around in I mode is annoying as hell. The single biggest thing I did to increase mileage was to change off of the factory map.

If you want good gas mileage, use your head and take it easy on the throttle, not the 'I' switch.

[mofoSTI]

I got better milage in S mode on my last trip to portland over the I mode.

[hairlesswookiee]

Originally Posted by tshrey

All this talk of economy mode - I suffered through two tanks of gas running totally on I mode and then two on S# (Cobb stage 1 map). There was a whopping .5 mpg difference and driving around in I mode is annoying as hell. The single biggest thing I did to increase mileage was to change off of the factory map.

If you want good gas mileage, use your head and take it easy on the throttle, not the 'I' switch.

exactly...i've been using the S# mode more lately. and to be honest when i control myself i thing i'm getting about the same mileage. as long as you aren't launching it from every green light you should be pretty good.

[atl_sti]

Man, reading this thread has made me want to run up the credit card to get an AP from Perrin. Jeff seems to really care what his customers think and I will probably be buying mostly Perrin stuff from here on out because of it. I will be ordering the AP from you guys shortly (gotta sneak it past the wife).

[hairlesswookiee]

me too.... if they would just hurry up and release that beautiful exhaust that i keep hearing about.

[mofoSTI]

With as much driving as I do the ap would pay for itslef in a year.