[stiski]

I tired a set of the Eibachs and they did not work in the front. The rear worked fine, but in the front the bolts were too small. The bolt just bounced around in the hole. Any one know of one that fits or had this problem.

Thanks
Marcus

[Egan]

What's wrong with the stock one?

[stiski]

Originally Posted by Egan

What's wrong with the stock one?

Not enough range of adjustment. The stock bolts only allow ~ -1 to -1.25 degrees and I do not want to purchase adjustable strut tops.

[Egan]

Well, then that limits your options. Some folks have gone ahead and used the stock camber bolts in the stock location and maxed them out and then aftermarket camber bolts in the second hole. There was a thread on nasioc recently about this. I believe they were using the 14mm Whiteline bolts with the cam lobes. They should work fine in the second hole since it is just like the two in the rear, IIRC.

[ahamel]

Egan, I just bought few OEM camber to make a test. I'll use OEM camber bolt at the top and the bottom. I know people who use to do that. Now, I found that oem one are much cheaper that after maket one... In the worst case senerio, you can just grind a bit of them.

[stiski]

Originally Posted by ahamel

Egan, I just bought few OEM camber to make a test. I'll use OEM camber bolt at the top and the bottom. I know people who use to do that. Now, I found that oem one are much cheaper that after maket one... In the worst case senerio, you can just grind a bit of them.

Ahamel,

Measure them at the widest part of the cam lobe before you put them in. (I did not have the good sense to do this while I had mine out) H&R lists the different sizes of camber bolts they sell on their website. Conceivably we could just order the same size as the cam lobe and get them to work. Their bolts are supposed to have 3 degrees of adjustment.

[staticx313]

Originally Posted by stiski

Not enough range of adjustment. The stock bolts only allow ~ -1 to -1.25 degrees and I do not want to purchase adjustable strut tops.

I was really looking for something like this as well... the guy who did my tires said he couldnt get the front wheels at more then -.4 !!! ...

Robert~

[Egan]

Originally Posted by ahamel

Egan, I just bought few OEM camber to make a test. I'll use OEM camber bolt at the top and the bottom. I know people who use to do that. Now, I found that oem one are much cheaper that after maket one... In the worst case senerio, you can just grind a bit of them.

The only problem is that the top hole in the hub assembly is larger than the bottom hole. This is because the camber bolt is larger than the normal bolt. So a stock camber bolt won't fit in the bottom hole without some serious drilling. In addition, stock camber bolts won't fit in either of the rear holes.

So, short of camber plates, your only option is to max out the stock camber bolts in the stock location and use aftermarket ones in the lower hole. I can't confirm if this gets you more neg. camber as I've never done it myself.

[stiski]

Originally Posted by Egan

The only problem is that the top hole in the hub assembly is larger than the bottom hole. This is because the camber bolt is larger than the normal bolt. So a stock camber bolt won't fit in the bottom hole without some serious drilling. In addition, stock camber bolts won't fit in either of the rear holes.

So, short of camber plates, your only option is to max out the stock camber bolts in the stock location and use aftermarket ones in the lower hole. I can't confirm if this gets you more neg. camber as I've never done it myself.

I am just about ready to say !*%@ it and order some camber plates. There is a guy in my autox club that has the 14mm camber bolts in the lower front holes. He has about -2 with that setup now. I am kind of worried about them slipping though.

I am going by the dealership tomorrow to see if they have the stock bolt and measure it. If it is as big as I think the H&R bolts will not work because the larger sizes are designed for wider brackets. Wish me luck.

[Egan]

I ran the 14mm Whitelines in the back of my wagon through a couple of track days and they never slipped. As long as they get torqued correctly, you won't have any problems.

Camber plates are really the best solution if you need a lot of camber. I had JIC's on the wagon which come with camber plates up front. I was running close to -2 with plenty of room for more adjustment.

As far as aftermarket plates go, the Noltecs are fairly inexpesnive, and the ground controls are very stout.