[4banger]

John, that's good to know. I didn't realize they were the 1198's. Thanks.

[4banger]

Originally Posted by ButtDyno

Koni provides them. I think it's on their website somewheres

The shortened shocks that come in the GC housings, BTW, are 1198's if I remember right (not 8610's)

john

Are there any more numbers in that model number? I tried searching Koni's site for the dyno plot, but didn't come up with anything. Perhaps the full model number is 8641-1198 Sport?

[ButtDyno]

I'll check my invoice when I get home. I thought it just said 1198 though.

[4banger]

Originally Posted by ButtDyno

I'll check my invoice when I get home. I thought it just said 1198 though.

Thanks. I'm going to email Koni and ask for dyno plots once I get the full number.

[ButtDyno]

Originally Posted by 4banger

Thanks. I'm going to email Koni and ask for dyno plots once I get the full number.

Okay, just checked the invoice. It describes them as:
"Koni Single adjustable strut or shock 1198spgc"

It could just be that 1198 is an abbreviation. :dunno:

john

[4banger]

John - that is very strange. A google search of 1198spgc finds only one hit and it from Ground Controls home page. It states:

"Koni Custom Valved strut insert. Shorter than standard insert, single adjustable damping from top of strut.Uses standard Koni gland nut or GC gland nut, cannot be used with Bilstein or Sachs gland nut."

It sounds like you got a custom valved strut. I think I'll start by emailing GC and seeing what is up.

[!4KORNRZ!]

The inserts are custom valved by Koni for Ground Control applications.
That's what the "GC" stands for...

[thrlskr]

Originally Posted by !4KORNRZ!

The inserts are custom valved by Koni for Ground Control applications.
That's what the "GC" stands for...

Ground Control?

[!4KORNRZ!]

Yes, Ground Control

[4banger]

Originally Posted by !4KORNRZ!

The inserts are custom valved by Koni for Ground Control applications.
That's what the "GC" stands for...

You wouldn't happen to have shock dyno's for these inserts, would you?

[Tim Flat4]

Please excuse my ignorance Stretch but if one were to follow the "staged" path that you included in your first post wouldn't the said person be buying the GC housings twice (once for the stock strut and again when upgrading to Koni SA/DA strut inserts)?

The reason I ask is because I'm about to start modifying my STi's suspension, starting with TiC bushings and Cobb sways, then springs shortly there after. I'm coming from a 00 2.5RS and the GC/Koni combo is widely used with that chassis with great success. Now that I know I can use the same combo for my 05 I'm considering it but I don't know if I want to buy the housings, struts and camber plates at the same time.

[BM_STi]

Originally Posted by thrlskr

Ground Control?

nothin funny about that, contrary to what everyone thinks they actually make real coilovers vs. the "typical honda sleeve-over spring and collar setup". My setup should be done in a week.

[thrlskr]

Originally Posted by BM_STi

nothin funny about that, contrary to what everyone thinks they actually make real coilovers vs. the "typical honda sleeve-over spring and collar setup". My setup should be done in a week.

You missunderstood me. My laugh was in reference to the guy asking about what GC meant when Ground Control products were in his signature. Now I realize he wasn't asking he was stating a fact. Jokes on me. Anyway, I'm a big fan of GC, I visited their shop years ago and have used their products several times. I would have gone this route instead of the bilsteins had I been aware of it.

[BM_STi]

Originally Posted by thrlskr

You missunderstood me. My laugh was in reference to the guy asking about what GC meant when Ground Control products were in his signature. Now I realize he wasn't asking he was stating a fact. Jokes on me. Anyway, I'm a big fan of GC, I visited their shop years ago and have used their products several times. I would have gone this route instead of the bilsteins had I been aware of it.

ohh my bad lol

[Splash]

Which now begs the question...

Stretch, if you have GC housings and their front Konis, but used WRX housings and standard Koni inserts out back, don't you now have a mis-matched set of Konis?

I mean, the GC ones are custom-valved and the OTS inserts have stock Koni valving.