For those of you who have the Whiteline 29mm FSB...**Another update!** - Page 3

STIfrog · 12-09-2006, 05:04 PM

Update:

Tom from Kartboy sent me 4 spacers, 1/4 inch thick with a 1/8 inch through hole, to go between the bar and the endlink, and between the mounting point and the endlink.

I was a bit worried that they would be too thick, and I wouldn't be able to adequately tighten the endlinks down. Anyway, slipped those babies in and tightened everything up. I had to rotate the bar backwards a bit to get everything to line back up...not a problem, just have to be patient with it.

The endlinks look much better now, they pitch outwards a tad instead of inwards a ton, so the optimal spacers might be 3/16" thick...but I'm not complaining. Took it for a drive, and the little clunks that I had before are gone...everything is stone quiet. Not to mention that it LOOKS a LOT less stressing on the endlinks.

Big thanks, Tom! Everyone that has this bar/endlink combination should put a set of spacers in...especially if you are having clunk issues.

***Got2Boostit2*** · 12-09-2006, 07:23 PM

STiFrog,
Thanks for the updates on what you have found. Big ups to Tom @ Kartboy for providing the spacers!
Blue

ZenBoy · 12-10-2006, 01:26 PM

I was concerned about the same issues of bar angle, endlink angle, and clearance myself. I have the PolTec endlinks, which I got because of what I thought would be obvious stress on a non-spherical bearing enlink.

I deleted the pictures I took, otherwise I'd post them. I'm tight on clearance with stock springs, but I can't see a way to make the clearance any better. I can't find any evidence of contact with axles or steering linkage, though, so I think I'll be fine until I swap out the springs - then I'll have to re-visit the whole issue.

In looking at it from an engineering standpoint (even with the spacers on mine), it occurred to me that having the endlinks angle in toward the centerline of the car is a good way to keep the bar centered. If the endlinks are too close to being straight up, wouldn't there be more lateral play in both directions?

**wdb** · 12-10-2006, 04:32 PM

Since I don't have Whiteline bars I did not bother to read this thread until now. But I have to say, that looks like a design flaw plain and simple. Here is a shot of my front Hotchkis swaybar with the car sitting on the ground. Picture is not exactly from the same angle but I think it is clear that the end of the bar is parallel with the endlink mounting point.

***Got2Boostit2*** · 12-10-2006, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdb

Since I don't have Whiteline bars I did not bother to read this thread until now. But I have to say, that looks like a design flaw plain and simple. Here is a shot of my front Hotchkis swaybar with the car sitting on the ground. Picture is not exactly from the same angle but I think it is clear that the end of the bar is parallel with the endlink mounting point.

The end of the H bar is parallel, but the links appear to be angled. Only way to really tell is to take a picture as close to the same angle as those posted.
IMHO.

949 · 12-11-2006, 12:51 PM

my perrrin has the same issue at first but i called perrin about he front sway bars and it was a design flaw. they tried to make them the same as the older wrx models without changing it and it was hitting my control arm. so i sent it back and they sent me a brand new front sway bar.

but i am upgrading to the whitelines and you all seem to have the same issue? is it fully hitting or only on certain settings?

flatthump · 12-11-2006, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdb

Since I don't have Whiteline bars I did not bother to read this thread until now. But I have to say, that looks like a design flaw plain and simple.

I didnt want to start anything here....But for the record....My whiteline bar fits much much much much much better.

***Got2Boostit2*** · 12-11-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 949

my perrrin has the same issue at first but i called perrin about he front sway bars and it was a design flaw. they tried to make them the same as the older wrx models without changing it and it was hitting my control arm. so i sent it back and they sent me a brand new front sway bar.

but i am upgrading to the whitelines and you all seem to have the same issue? is it fully hitting or only on certain settings?

For the record, the Whiteline 27-29 FSB doesn't hit the control arm. Any pics I posted the contact is from the previous bar I had installed.

Blue

STIfrog · 12-11-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatthump

I didnt want to start anything here....But for the record....My whiteline bar fits much much much much much better.

Can you elaborate? I'm curious to see how your bar fits...

kessler89 · 12-12-2006, 09:58 AM

i've got a whiteline fsb in the mail and i do NOT wanna use the stock endlinks, after all the problems i had with my wrx's stock front endlinks i'm not gonna use em once i get the FSB, i'm curious to see what this thread concludes

subscribe

***Parker*** · 12-12-2006, 10:39 AM

subscribed since i am looking to make a similar purchase but don't want to go through this hassle.

DragonXero13 · 12-12-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parker

subscribed since i am looking to make a similar purchase but don't want to go through this hassle.

Got the parts, just need to see how endlinks work ..

***Got2Boostit2*** · 12-12-2006, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STIfrog

Can you elaborate? I'm curious to see how your bar fits...

Pictures would be better!

***Got2Boostit2*** · 12-12-2006, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatthump

I didnt want to start anything here....But for the record....My whiteline bar fits much much much much much better.

You know that pics are required, right?

**kat398** · 12-13-2006, 08:09 AM

I have the exact set up, WL 29mm FSB and KB endlinks. Pretty much is the same as this pics, the bar is too short therefore the endlinks is angled just like this.

I have to add a few spacers to make it somewhat less angled as this pic show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by calisti

12-09-2006, 05:04 PM	#31
STIfrog STI Driver Car: 06 STI Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 225 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Update: Tom from Kartboy sent me 4 spacers, 1/4 inch thick with a 1/8 inch through hole, to go between the bar and the endlink, and between the mounting point and the endlink. I was a bit worried that they would be too thick, and I wouldn't be able to adequately tighten the endlinks down. Anyway, slipped those babies in and tightened everything up. I had to rotate the bar backwards a bit to get everything to line back up...not a problem, just have to be patient with it. The endlinks look much better now, they pitch outwards a tad instead of inwards a ton, so the optimal spacers might be 3/16" thick...but I'm not complaining. Took it for a drive, and the little clunks that I had before are gone...everything is stone quiet. Not to mention that it LOOKS a LOT less stressing on the endlinks. Big thanks, Tom! Everyone that has this bar/endlink combination should put a set of spacers in...especially if you are having clunk issues. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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12-09-2006, 07:23 PM	#32
*Got2Boostit2* Subaru Addict Since 2003 Car: 04 WRB STi - 07 Blue Fav Mod: TIC Click Kit & Cobb SS, RCE Springs and Plates w/Cobb Stg2 Protuned Location: MI Posts: 1,188 IWSTI Addict since: May 2003 Trader Rating: (3)	STiFrog, Thanks for the updates on what you have found. Big ups to Tom @ Kartboy for providing the spacers! Blue

12-10-2006, 01:26 PM	#33
ZenBoy Grassroots STI Racer Car: 2004 WRB STi Fav Mod: Earplugs. Location: Minneapolis, Minnesnowta Posts: 596 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (2)	I was concerned about the same issues of bar angle, endlink angle, and clearance myself. I have the PolTec endlinks, which I got because of what I thought would be obvious stress on a non-spherical bearing enlink. I deleted the pictures I took, otherwise I'd post them. I'm tight on clearance with stock springs, but I can't see a way to make the clearance any better. I can't find any evidence of contact with axles or steering linkage, though, so I think I'll be fine until I swap out the springs - then I'll have to re-visit the whole issue. In looking at it from an engineering standpoint (even with the spacers on mine), it occurred to me that having the endlinks angle in toward the centerline of the car is a good way to keep the bar centered. If the endlinks are too close to being straight up, wouldn't there be more lateral play in both directions?

12-10-2006, 04:32 PM	#34
wdb dances with roads Car: 2005 CGM STi Posts: 5,124 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (8)	Since I don't have Whiteline bars I did not bother to read this thread until now. But I have to say, that looks like a design flaw plain and simple. Here is a shot of my front Hotchkis swaybar with the car sitting on the ground. Picture is not exactly from the same angle but I think it is clear that the end of the bar is parallel with the endlink mounting point.

12-11-2006, 12:51 PM	#36
949 Professional STI Driver Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: battery with new upgraded positve and neg terminals Location: socal Posts: 422 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	my perrrin has the same issue at first but i called perrin about he front sway bars and it was a design flaw. they tried to make them the same as the older wrx models without changing it and it was hitting my control arm. so i sent it back and they sent me a brand new front sway bar. but i am upgrading to the whitelines and you all seem to have the same issue? is it fully hitting or only on certain settings?

12-12-2006, 09:58 AM	#40
kessler89 Spec C Club Car: Zohsex Fav Mod: 295 rears Location: Ohio Posts: 1,346 IWSTI Addict since: May 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	i've got a whiteline fsb in the mail and i do NOT wanna use the stock endlinks, after all the problems i had with my wrx's stock front endlinks i'm not gonna use em once i get the FSB, i'm curious to see what this thread concludes subscribe

12-12-2006, 10:39 AM	#41
*Parker* Sooper Moderator Car: 06 SGM STI Fav Mod: Stage 1 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,890 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	subscribed since i am looking to make a similar purchase but don't want to go through this hassle.