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Old 11-03-2006, 09:40 PM   #31
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With those spring rates you should be fine, and not get rear wheel lift.

That does not mean put them on the stiffest setting and go.
This is NOT an overnight thing. Coilovers are not the cure for all handling woes where you throw them on, and the car will instantly let you be a professional race driver. It will take time to dial in what settings for both the coilovers and sways suit you best.
Worked for me?

But seriously, listen to Clint. It will take time to dial in your setup, and that will just be a matter of getting what you paid for with the coilovers.


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Old 11-04-2006, 03:15 AM   #32
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With those spring rates you should be fine, and not get rear wheel lift.

That does not mean put them on the stiffest setting and go. Keep in mind that even a small dia. change in a bar is a BIG change in stiffness. Coupled with the fact that you now have stiffer springs which will help with roll stiffness and you have completely changed the handling dynamics of the car.

Here's what I suggest you do.

1) install parts and set sways to full soft both front and rear.
2) adjust coilovers for weight balance, height, and get an alignment
3) play with the settings of the coilovers to get them to where you like the ride, and handling. at this point you will still have more body roll than you like.
4) once you have figured out the settings of the coilovers, and want more control over bodyroll use the swaybars to fine tune the handling.

This is NOT an overnight thing. Coilovers are not the cure for all handling woes where you throw them on, and the car will instantly let you be a professional race driver. It will take time to dial in what settings for both the coilovers and sways suit you best.

Professional race teams spend countless hours setting up, and adjusting suspensions, and these are the guys who know their job inside and out. Despite this knowledge they also know that there will be adjustments to be made. Your situation is no different. It will require work to figure out what works best for you. Sure, suggestions on the parts, and basic settings can be made, but in the end you have to adjust the car to your style.
Thanks a lot for the great, informative response. That's the information I was looking for.

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Old 11-04-2006, 03:44 AM   #33
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With those spring rates you should be fine, and not get rear wheel lift.

That does not mean put them on the stiffest setting and go. Keep in mind that even a small dia. change in a bar is a BIG change in stiffness. Coupled with the fact that you now have stiffer springs which will help with roll stiffness and you have completely changed the handling dynamics of the car.

Here's what I suggest you do.

1) install parts and set sways to full soft both front and rear.
2) adjust coilovers for weight balance, height, and get an alignment
3) play with the settings of the coilovers to get them to where you like the ride, and handling. at this point you will still have more body roll than you like.
4) once you have figured out the settings of the coilovers, and want more control over bodyroll use the swaybars to fine tune the handling.

This is NOT an overnight thing. Coilovers are not the cure for all handling woes where you throw them on, and the car will instantly let you be a professional race driver. It will take time to dial in what settings for both the coilovers and sways suit you best.

Professional race teams spend countless hours setting up, and adjusting suspensions, and these are the guys who know their job inside and out. Despite this knowledge they also know that there will be adjustments to be made. Your situation is no different. It will require work to figure out what works best for you. Sure, suggestions on the parts, and basic settings can be made, but in the end you have to adjust the car to your style.
What he said. It's taken me several autocrosses to get my setup in the ballpark of "right." I've finally gotten to the point where I can start fine tuning my damper adjustments... and then after I get those right I'll be on to tire pressures.

Then I'll have to take a couple steps back next season when I get different tires and bigger swaybars.

What I've learned is that if you never autocross or do track days in your car, you really don't need coilovers. Before I autocrossed on my new setup I set it where I thought it felt ok, but then when I went out to dodge a few cones I realized how screwed up it was.... even though it felt just fine on the street. You can't really push your car hard enough on the street to need to tap into the extra adjustability coilovers offer.


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