PDE Plate install Tips and Pics added

boataholic · 10-30-2006, 12:37 PM

Hi,
I just installed my springs and camber plates but I have a problem. Is the PDE logo supposed to be facing tword or away from the car and which side is the adjuster supposed to face. Right now both adjuster plates (the ones with the holes are facing inside tword the fender well. I have them in the camber only position.
Thanks,
Max

AndrewSS · 10-30-2006, 01:48 PM

Here is how its supposed to orient, both plates (atleast my V2 plates did) had markings for LH/RH

boataholic · 10-31-2006, 09:21 AM

Thanks Andrew,
That's exactly what I needed to know also I figured out which was hole 10 so I'm just about ready for a quick test ride.

boataholic · 10-31-2006, 11:45 AM

PS if anyone develops a strut clunk after PDE install make sure the top Nut is super tight. I don't see how you could do it without air tools but I hammered it in with my 1/2 inch impact and it stopped clunking. Also check the bottom nut as you most likely removed it during installation if it is loose it will also cause clunk. Now onto the link. This post helped me most.
PDE PLATES COME WITH NO DOCUMENTATION
But on their website they have a very rought install guide.
http://www.pde-usa.com/downloads/ins...10_install.doc
Also how the hell do you know which is the 10th hole and how it is adjusted?

I don't know how they expect you to figure this out on your own but I managed. Also don't forget you can install them in Camber only Caster Camber position. The above is in Camber/Caster position. Each hole is a .2 degree change in camber. So Hole 10 is where you were stock. Don't think this is 0 degrees unless you set it at zero. When you get your performance alignment have them max out negative camber then you can get real numbers. I.E. if they max out at -1.7 then hole 10 is you guessed it -1.7 and hole 9 is -1.9 hole 11 is -1.5. Of course this all depends on what your car will do stock. Keep in mind that if you set a street then track setting when you change Camber you will change toe just a bit also. So find a median point so you can have a toe and camber setting that is a good compromise. I plan on running almost no toe for street so when I adjust the camber at the track I may have a small amount of toe.
The above pic was courtesy of speedabsolute.com
Thanks to Cho_Yang for coming over Sunday even tho we didn't finish.
I can't wait for my performance alignment the 16th
Here's my suspension set up
Cobb Swaybars
Kartboy Endlinks
Swift Springs
Group N rear Tops
PDE Camber Plates
Next will be Ohlins Fixed Perch when the stockers meet their demise.

docwyte · 10-31-2006, 11:57 AM

How much did the PDE plates raise the car?

boataholic · 10-31-2006, 12:09 PM

1/2 inch but it worked out perfect as I'm not hitting when I pull into my garage which is on an incline

AndrewSS · 10-31-2006, 12:54 PM

which plate do you have the new plate (V2) or the old one (V1, like in those pix) my pde v2 plates raise roughly 1/4" or so

**elirentz** · 10-31-2006, 01:50 PM

How can you tell the difference between the two?

AndrewSS · 10-31-2006, 02:59 PM

the easiest way to differ is the v1 is very golden, the v2 is more bronze silver ish in color... the v2 doesnt raise quite as much to my knowledge and there is slight other changes... not positive on them all, i think that top part that has pde inscribed on it is different for both versions...

docwyte · 10-31-2006, 03:15 PM

Hmm, if they only raise 1/4" or so, I'd be interested in getting them... Anyway to confirm that?

boataholic · 11-01-2006, 02:40 AM

Now that my springs are settling in I'm finding that the front of the car sets way higher then the rear. I can fit about 3 fingers inbetween the fender on the front and I'm about even with the fender in the rear. I'm tempted to put on the group N tops and see what it does. I'll post some pics soon.

boataholic · 11-01-2006, 11:25 PM

So what do you think? Will this throw off my ride geometry? I'm concerned that the front looks so much higer but the car is riding very nice and I love the new springs. I just don't like the fact I have so much gap in the front.

docwyte · 11-02-2006, 05:29 AM

Can't tell from that pic what the height is....

***austinpike*** · 11-02-2006, 06:49 AM

when the car is "even" it should have ~3/4" more gap in the front than the back - the front arch is higher. If you want to reduce it, get the RCE plates - they drop the front instead of raise it.

boataholic · 11-02-2006, 09:19 AM

I have at least 2 inches more in the front but I don't understand why. I have Swift Sport Machs with PDE Plates. THe PDEs are supposed to raise the car by 1/2 an inch and the Swifts were supposed to drop it by .984 I'm almost at stock height in the front and lower in the rear... I'll take some better pics.

10-30-2006, 12:37 PM	#1
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	PDE Plate install Tips and Pics added Hi, I just installed my springs and camber plates but I have a problem. Is the PDE logo supposed to be facing tword or away from the car and which side is the adjuster supposed to face. Right now both adjuster plates (the ones with the holes are facing inside tword the fender well. I have them in the camber only position. Thanks, Max This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by boataholic; 11-01-2006 at 11:30 PM.

11-01-2006, 11:25 PM	#12
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Finally the pics So what do you think? Will this throw off my ride geometry? I'm concerned that the front looks so much higer but the car is riding very nice and I love the new springs. I just don't like the fact I have so much gap in the front. Last edited by boataholic; 11-01-2006 at 11:28 PM.

11-02-2006, 09:19 AM	#15
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	I have at least 2 inches more in the front but I don't understand why. I have Swift Sport Machs with PDE Plates. THe PDEs are supposed to raise the car by 1/2 an inch and the Swifts were supposed to drop it by .984 I'm almost at stock height in the front and lower in the rear... I'll take some better pics. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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10-30-2006, 01:48 PM	#2
AndrewSS S204 Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: RCE T2 Coilovers Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,643 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (21)	Here is how its supposed to orient, both plates (atleast my V2 plates did) had markings for LH/RH

10-31-2006, 09:21 AM	#3
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Thanks Andrew, That's exactly what I needed to know also I figured out which was hole 10 so I'm just about ready for a quick test ride.

10-31-2006, 11:45 AM	#4
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	PS if anyone develops a strut clunk after PDE install make sure the top Nut is super tight. I don't see how you could do it without air tools but I hammered it in with my 1/2 inch impact and it stopped clunking. Also check the bottom nut as you most likely removed it during installation if it is loose it will also cause clunk. Now onto the link. This post helped me most. PDE PLATES COME WITH NO DOCUMENTATION But on their website they have a very rought install guide. http://www.pde-usa.com/downloads/ins...10_install.doc Also how the hell do you know which is the 10th hole and how it is adjusted? I don't know how they expect you to figure this out on your own but I managed. Also don't forget you can install them in Camber only Caster Camber position. The above is in Camber/Caster position. Each hole is a .2 degree change in camber. So Hole 10 is where you were stock. Don't think this is 0 degrees unless you set it at zero. When you get your performance alignment have them max out negative camber then you can get real numbers. I.E. if they max out at -1.7 then hole 10 is you guessed it -1.7 and hole 9 is -1.9 hole 11 is -1.5. Of course this all depends on what your car will do stock. Keep in mind that if you set a street then track setting when you change Camber you will change toe just a bit also. So find a median point so you can have a toe and camber setting that is a good compromise. I plan on running almost no toe for street so when I adjust the camber at the track I may have a small amount of toe. The above pic was courtesy of speedabsolute.com Thanks to Cho_Yang for coming over Sunday even tho we didn't finish. I can't wait for my performance alignment the 16th Here's my suspension set up Cobb Swaybars Kartboy Endlinks Swift Springs Group N rear Tops PDE Camber Plates Next will be Ohlins Fixed Perch when the stockers meet their demise.

10-31-2006, 11:57 AM	#5
docwyte Senior STI Driver Location: denver, CO Posts: 333 IWSTI Addict since: May 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	How much did the PDE plates raise the car?

10-31-2006, 12:09 PM	#6
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	1/2 inch but it worked out perfect as I'm not hitting when I pull into my garage which is on an incline

10-31-2006, 12:54 PM	#7
AndrewSS S204 Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: RCE T2 Coilovers Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,643 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (21)	which plate do you have the new plate (V2) or the old one (V1, like in those pix) my pde v2 plates raise roughly 1/4" or so

10-31-2006, 01:50 PM	#8
elirentz Gold Member Car: 05 STi, 87 325e Fav Mod: ohlins w/RCE springs, sz55 Location: charleston Posts: 566 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	How can you tell the difference between the two?

10-31-2006, 02:59 PM	#9
AndrewSS S204 Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: RCE T2 Coilovers Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,643 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (21)	the easiest way to differ is the v1 is very golden, the v2 is more bronze silver ish in color... the v2 doesnt raise quite as much to my knowledge and there is slight other changes... not positive on them all, i think that top part that has pde inscribed on it is different for both versions...

10-31-2006, 03:15 PM	#10
docwyte Senior STI Driver Location: denver, CO Posts: 333 IWSTI Addict since: May 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Hmm, if they only raise 1/4" or so, I'd be interested in getting them... Anyway to confirm that?

11-01-2006, 02:40 AM	#11
boataholic Professional STI Driver Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: The OC Posts: 412 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Now that my springs are settling in I'm finding that the front of the car sets way higher then the rear. I can fit about 3 fingers inbetween the fender on the front and I'm about even with the fender in the rear. I'm tempted to put on the group N tops and see what it does. I'll post some pics soon.

11-02-2006, 05:29 AM	#13
docwyte Senior STI Driver Location: denver, CO Posts: 333 IWSTI Addict since: May 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Can't tell from that pic what the height is....

11-02-2006, 06:49 AM	#14
*austinpike* Platinum Member Car: 2oo8 aw STi Location: MN Posts: 1,940 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (7)	when the car is "even" it should have ~3/4" more gap in the front than the back - the front arch is higher. If you want to reduce it, get the RCE plates - they drop the front instead of raise it.