COBB vs. Kartboy Endlinks - pros and cons? - Page 2

***VSGTS14*** · 10-16-2006, 07:31 AM

exactly.

they are built a lot simpler than cobb's, so what i mean is when you have to lube them it's mad easy....as soon as you get them you will see what i mean and you'll see what you want to lube, which you should do before you install.

my cobbs were quiet right of the bat, but i was mad abou the hardware..

kartboy uses a different nut that locks onto the bolt more and mine haven't come loose yet.

i tightened them to like 35 and kartboy recommends 40 i believe...cobb wanted theirs at 31-32, which is like the stock ft/lbs yet isn't enough to keep them on and overtorquing isn't recommended.

LOLSTi · 10-16-2006, 07:59 AM

Just go with the KBs from TiC and forget about it. Endlinks really shouldn't be this big of a deal.

psuLemon · 10-16-2006, 08:41 AM

KB endlinks and while you are there, get the TIC fender braces, they are supposed to work wonders from what i have read

LOLSTi · 10-16-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by psuLemon

KB endlinks and while you are there, get the TIC fender braces, they are supposed to work wonders from what i have read

Indeed. TiC puts together some pretty nifty package deals.

AnorexicSTI · 10-16-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by psuLemon

KB endlinks and while you are there, get the TIC fender braces, they are supposed to work wonders from what i have read

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was the WRX with the weak braces and the STi already came with pretty good fender braces from the factory?

LOLSTi · 10-16-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by STIGUY88

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was the WRX with the weak braces and the STi already came with pretty good fender braces from the factory?

You're wrong.

The stock STi braces are flimsy stamped steel.

Transworld · 10-16-2006, 01:04 PM

I have the Kartboy rear; they are silent just as the stock. Never had one problem with them.

psuLemon · 10-17-2006, 07:59 AM

Stock vs GT spec complements of Bruce Chapman

TIC vs Stock complements of Subiegal

LOLSTi · 10-17-2006, 08:27 AM

nice post PSuLemon.

psuLemon · 10-18-2006, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LOLSTi

nice post PSuLemon.

Thanks, my only concern would be with the GTspec but its probably since i haven't research it too much. Your greatest strength will come from something that has less bends. But I am off to research to see if the GTspec design is optimum or not.

LOLSTi · 10-18-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by psuLemon

Thanks, my only concern would be with the GTspec but its probably since i haven't research it too much. Your greatest strength will come from something that has less bends. But I am off to research to see if the GTspec design is optimum or not.

Yep. TiC ones are at the correct pricepoint, and simplicity of design, IMO.

**70s-gearhead** · 10-22-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by STIGUY88

I'm getting the COBB swaybars and thought I would just pick up the endlinks as well... I've read I need the rear at the very least, but since I don't like installing things twice, I thought I would get the front as well and be done with it.

So which is better and why?

Also, is the rear adjustable aluminum plate really necessary? COBB says it is to keep the endlink vertical when adjusting to settings other than full soft.

I had a problem using the Kartboy end links with the front Cobb bar and ended up switching to the Cobb endlinks. Check out this thread on the topic: http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31609

***VSGTS14*** · 10-22-2006, 01:27 PM

^dunno mine worked fine and so have others.

stretch · 10-25-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SickSTi

kartboy..cheaper and better..

I went with Kartboy because they are cheaper, but I certainly think Cobb's are better. They use spherical bearings just like an OE part, only they're much stronger.

Kartboy's bushing endlinks work, but I can't imagine the bushings are happy during extreme compression or extension of the suspension. They're asked to flex quite a bit. Furthermore, they rely on lubrication to permit motion- there is no bearing.

Basically, the whole Cobb versus Kartboy thing comes down to a bushing versus a bearing. A bearing is better, but more expensive.

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Originally Posted by LOLSTi

You're wrong.

The stock STi braces are flimsy stamped steel.

But they only need to resist stretching, and stamped steel should do that fine.

**twiSTies** · 10-25-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stretch

But they only need to resist stretching, and stamped steel should do that fine.

I'll reimburse you for the fender braces from TiC if you don't notice a difference.

10-16-2006, 07:31 AM	#16
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 08 Chevy 2500 Diesel Fav Mod: a new 09 STi Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 10,206 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (11)	exactly. they are built a lot simpler than cobb's, so what i mean is when you have to lube them it's mad easy....as soon as you get them you will see what i mean and you'll see what you want to lube, which you should do before you install. my cobbs were quiet right of the bat, but i was mad abou the hardware.. kartboy uses a different nut that locks onto the bolt more and mine haven't come loose yet. i tightened them to like 35 and kartboy recommends 40 i believe...cobb wanted theirs at 31-32, which is like the stock ft/lbs yet isn't enough to keep them on and overtorquing isn't recommended. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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10-16-2006, 07:59 AM	#17
LOLSTi S204 Racer Car: RIP 02 WRX Fav Mod: 2004 Aspen White WRX STi Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,614 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Just go with the KBs from TiC and forget about it. Endlinks really shouldn't be this big of a deal.

10-16-2006, 08:41 AM	#18
psuLemon Spec C Club Car: 04 WRB Fav Mod: Greddy TI-C Location: Philly Posts: 1,809 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	KB endlinks and while you are there, get the TIC fender braces, they are supposed to work wonders from what i have read

10-16-2006, 01:04 PM	#22
Transworld Senior STI Driver Car: 2005 STi Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: Canada Posts: 331 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	I have the Kartboy rear; they are silent just as the stock. Never had one problem with them.

10-17-2006, 07:59 AM	#23
psuLemon Spec C Club Car: 04 WRB Fav Mod: Greddy TI-C Location: Philly Posts: 1,809 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	Stock vs GT spec complements of Bruce Chapman TIC vs Stock complements of Subiegal

10-17-2006, 08:27 AM	#24
LOLSTi S204 Racer Car: RIP 02 WRX Fav Mod: 2004 Aspen White WRX STi Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,614 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	nice post PSuLemon.

10-22-2006, 01:27 PM	#28
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 08 Chevy 2500 Diesel Fav Mod: a new 09 STi Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 10,206 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (11)	^dunno mine worked fine and so have others.