which coilover is better? - and why stiffer isn't necessarily better

wt421 · 06-18-2006, 04:14 AM

which coilover is better for 01 gdb?
1,Cusco zero 2r
2,Tein mono flex or flex
3,KW V3

Thanks!

**Z1 Performance** · 06-18-2006, 06:06 AM

better for what? What do you use the car for?

no one is going to be able to comment on the Tein Mono, as they are too new

**evilSTi7** · 06-18-2006, 07:10 AM

for anything you are doing, KW's hands down.

wt421 · 06-18-2006, 08:00 AM

I don't want the noise(clunk),I use the car for street(70%) and I want long last.Is the inverted coilover always clunk,because my zeal xs always clunk,especially in hot temperture.

dlouie87 · 06-18-2006, 10:21 AM

i have flex....but i would get the cusco....but then people on here might say KW.....

stretch · 06-18-2006, 10:29 AM

Generally I'd say KW, but you didn't specify what you wanted the coilover to be better at, so there really isn't a correct answer.

BayRain · 06-18-2006, 10:56 AM

Most coilovers are going to make noise. Don't buy coilovers to do away with noises or think that they wont develope noise. If your car is for the street I would go KW. The intervals between rebuilds on the KW's are much longer than the cuscos or teins.

Dylan · 06-18-2006, 11:37 AM

edit
thread merged.

***520*** · 06-18-2006, 11:44 AM

what are you using it for? Street, track, etc..

Dylan · 06-18-2006, 11:47 AM

You really have a 2001 New Age?

BeattySTi · 06-18-2006, 11:55 AM

I have the Tein Flex w/ EDFC which enables me to be able to soften or stiffen the ride depending on what i am doing. Soft when the girl is in the car then switch to stiff for track use.

***520*** · 06-18-2006, 04:38 PM

how long does edfc take to install? sorry for OT ?

jsmonet · 06-18-2006, 06:54 PM

it looks like a relatively simple install. the hardest part of the edfc install is going to be running the wires + mounting the controller.

OP: it seems that german c/o's provide a softer, more compliant ride and japanese c/o's are very stiff for the most part. that should be your main factor in picking a c/o. the reason you're ditching your zeals will not be fixed by buying one of these setups because those noises are present in most setups.

two things to check: preload on your springs, and to make sure everything is tight--from the strut tops on down to the base of the c/o's.

take a look at your lower control arms in the front to see if they are level or pointing up kinda like this \_/ (you get the idea, not quite that severe). they should be level or pointing down just a little, and your sway bar should not be so close to anything that it will knock against the control arms or subframe.

you can also get rubber pads to quiet the springs.

if you really want to ditch your suspension for something quieter, just get a spring/strut/strut top setup and do away with the coilovers completely.

wt421 · 06-19-2006, 01:54 AM

I use two set of tein HA at my evo before, the noise(nacceptable. But the zeal clunk very loud after I used few months,just like the coilover was broken.ot clunk) was

**Z1 Performance** · 06-19-2006, 06:44 AM

Anything with a pillowball can develop noise over time - nothing you can really do about that.

I would agree the KW sound like the best option for you given your choices listed. Our customers have had rave reviews about them

06-18-2006, 04:14 AM	#1
wt421 Lurker Posts: 7 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	which coilover is better? - and why stiffer isn't necessarily better which coilover is better for 01 gdb? 1,Cusco zero 2r 2,Tein mono flex or flex 3,KW V3 Thanks! This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by evilSTi7 : 06-20-2006 at 01:13 PM.

06-18-2006, 11:37 AM	#8
Dylan Junior STI Driver Car: 01 GME(6) / 04 GDF(7 Fav Mod: Suspension bits Location: New York City Posts: 156 Join Date: Jan 2003 Trader Rating: (4)	edit thread merged. Last edited by Dylan : 06-18-2006 at 02:49 PM.

06-19-2006, 06:44 AM	#15
Z1 Performance Authorized Vendor Location: St James, NY Posts: 1,721 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (43)	Anything with a pillowball can develop noise over time - nothing you can really do about that. I would agree the KW sound like the best option for you given your choices listed. Our customers have had rave reviews about them This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

06-18-2006, 06:06 AM	#2
Z1 Performance Authorized Vendor Location: St James, NY Posts: 1,721 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (43)	better for what? What do you use the car for? no one is going to be able to comment on the Tein Mono, as they are too new

06-18-2006, 07:10 AM	#3
evilSTi7 The Hoff Fan Club, member #001 Car: 05 WRB/Gold Fav Mod: Hood Scoop Homer Location: Where ever The Hoff is! Posts: 10,226 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (4)	for anything you are doing, KW's hands down.

06-18-2006, 08:00 AM	#4
wt421 Lurker Posts: 7 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I don't want the noise(clunk),I use the car for street(70%) and I want long last.Is the inverted coilover always clunk,because my zeal xs always clunk,especially in hot temperture.

06-18-2006, 10:21 AM	#5
dlouie87 Spec C Club Car: 05 sti... Fav Mod: I Love my STi stickers! Location: Yuba/Chico, Ca Posts: 1,429 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	i have flex....but i would get the cusco....but then people on here might say KW.....

06-18-2006, 10:29 AM	#6
stretch Silver Member Car: Aspen 2005 STi Fav Mod: TurnInConcepts.com Coilovers Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 1,775 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Generally I'd say KW, but you didn't specify what you wanted the coilover to be better at, so there really isn't a correct answer.

06-18-2006, 10:56 AM	#7
BayRain Senior STI Driver Car: 05 Legacy Location: North of the Golden Gate Posts: 324 Join Date: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Most coilovers are going to make noise. Don't buy coilovers to do away with noises or think that they wont develope noise. If your car is for the street I would go KW. The intervals between rebuilds on the KW's are much longer than the cuscos or teins.

06-18-2006, 11:44 AM	#9
*520* STi > EVO... Wait what??? Car: 03 EVO Fav Mod: stock :( Location: Michigan / Saint Louis Posts: 12,334 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	what are you using it for? Street, track, etc..

06-18-2006, 11:47 AM	#10
Dylan Junior STI Driver Car: 01 GME(6) / 04 GDF(7 Fav Mod: Suspension bits Location: New York City Posts: 156 Join Date: Jan 2003 Trader Rating: (4)	You really have a 2001 New Age?

06-18-2006, 11:55 AM	#11
BeattySTi STI Driver Fav Mod: Protune thanks to Slowboy Racing Location: Dayton Posts: 223 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	I have the Tein Flex w/ EDFC which enables me to be able to soften or stiffen the ride depending on what i am doing. Soft when the girl is in the car then switch to stiff for track use.

06-18-2006, 04:38 PM	#12
*520* STi > EVO... Wait what??? Car: 03 EVO Fav Mod: stock :( Location: Michigan / Saint Louis Posts: 12,334 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	how long does edfc take to install? sorry for OT ?

06-18-2006, 06:54 PM	#13
jsmonet Junior STI Driver Car: 05 white STi Fav Mod: audio Location: So Cal Posts: 98 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	it looks like a relatively simple install. the hardest part of the edfc install is going to be running the wires + mounting the controller. OP: it seems that german c/o's provide a softer, more compliant ride and japanese c/o's are very stiff for the most part. that should be your main factor in picking a c/o. the reason you're ditching your zeals will not be fixed by buying one of these setups because those noises are present in most setups. two things to check: preload on your springs, and to make sure everything is tight--from the strut tops on down to the base of the c/o's. take a look at your lower control arms in the front to see if they are level or pointing up kinda like this \_/ (you get the idea, not quite that severe). they should be level or pointing down just a little, and your sway bar should not be so close to anything that it will knock against the control arms or subframe. you can also get rubber pads to quiet the springs. if you really want to ditch your suspension for something quieter, just get a spring/strut/strut top setup and do away with the coilovers completely.

06-19-2006, 01:54 AM	#14
wt421 Lurker Posts: 7 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I use two set of tein HA at my evo before, the noise(nacceptable. But the zeal clunk very loud after I used few months,just like the coilover was broken.ot clunk) was