TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars - Page 3

4banger · 07-03-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MGizzle

I am thinking the same man. The cusco 22's seem to be a great option ....

Great minds think alike. I just sent you a pm.

***Draco-REX*** · 07-03-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MGizzle

I am thinking the same man. The cusco 22's seem to be a great option and I just love the rubber bushings they offer. However, I did think about the STi 21's as well because I can get those with Subaru bucks but +1mm from stock seems a bit useless right now. If I could only get -2.5deg of camber in the front without moving the strut top I wouldn't even change the ARB's to be honest.

Out of curiosity, why can't you move the front struts? Otherwise, I'd *highly* recommend the RCE camber plates. I was able to get 3.5 degrees if I maxxed both the plates and bolts.

2006stiguy · 07-04-2008, 07:17 AM

Ok... so I wanted to take a look at the rear bar on my car, and I can confirm that the full stiff setting will not work with the kartboy links. I have mine set on the med. setting and with my set up its spectacular! I just can't wait for the new rear bar and my new tires to try full stiff at the next auto cross.

MGizzle · 07-04-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Out of curiosity, why can't you move the front struts? Otherwise, I'd *highly* recommend the RCE camber plates. I was able to get 3.5 degrees if I maxxed both the plates and bolts.

Draco, the reason I was stating that I don't want to move my tops is that I am changing instant centers (and so with roll center) and I have no idea how it is going to effect it. I am guessing that it will raise my Roll Center, hence probably level the roll axis more, which is not really prefered.

Bottom line is too many unknowns I don't know about or I can't control by just moving the top of my strut.

stretch · 07-04-2008, 06:04 PM

The difference in roll center height is pretty minimal even if you crank camber plates to full negative, which I bet you wouldn't do. You're certainly right that the roll center raises, though, but your lowering springs had a much more drastic effect on the car's roll center.

I modeled the front a year ago, but sadly I don't have the data anymore.

MGizzle · 07-05-2008, 05:42 PM

See that's my worry Stretch. I am already lowered and moving the tops would change it again (probably bring closer to stock but then the relation ship to the rears is gone). I figured the STi Pinks will be alright since they are made by STi and the roll axis is not changed, just lowered. However, I think the biggest (and additional) reason I am worried about camber plates is that they are all solid bushing and I don't think I could live with that on the streets since it is my daily driver.

williaty · 07-05-2008, 07:41 PM

The solid bearing isn't NEARLY as bad as you'd think. It's a little bit noisier over rumble strips and stuff, but that's really it.

viaburn26 · 07-27-2008, 11:59 PM

so are the rce sways out yet , can't find them .

**RaceComp Engineering** · 07-28-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by viaburn26

so are the rce sways out yet , can't find them .

Not yet, but soon. We will have the revisions within 2 weeks. At that point we will double check all the points of interest and past issues and concerns and send out a few beta sets to the past reviewers.

Mw

***Draco-REX*** · 07-28-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MGizzle

See that's my worry Stretch. I am already lowered and moving the tops would change it again (probably bring closer to stock but then the relation ship to the rears is gone). I figured the STi Pinks will be alright since they are made by STi and the roll axis is not changed, just lowered. However, I think the biggest (and additional) reason I am worried about camber plates is that they are all solid bushing and I don't think I could live with that on the streets since it is my daily driver.

The spherical berarings are not very loud on the street. I wouldn't worry about it.

As for roll center height, ANY drop from springs will lower the RC 2.6 times more. Tilting the tops of the struts in wll raise it back up some. So getting camber plates will be a good thing. Not only will you gain back a little RC height, but you also get more negative camber which is what is needed more. Camber plates (especialy the RCE ones) are pretty much win-win.

viaburn26 · 08-17-2008, 12:42 PM

when are they coming out arghhh , hope their yellow

**RaceComp Engineering** · 08-17-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by viaburn26

when are they coming out arghhh , hope their yellow

We are aiming for a ship date to pre-orders for Sept 21st. I hope to beat that date btw. Color to remain BLACK, unless a OVERWHELMING number of people say otherwise.

....or if Brigette Moynahan owned an STI and ordered a set and wanted them yellow...

Myles

ATTI2D · 08-17-2008, 04:51 PM

+1 for cherry blossum red or yellow

viaburn26 · 08-17-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by viaburn26

when are they coming out arghhh , hope their yellow

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Originally Posted by ATTI2D

+1 for cherry blossum red or yellow

thats two for yellow . black bars are boring . think RCE should create a color poll .

Icculus · 08-18-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by viaburn26

thats two for yellow . black bars are boring . think RCE should create a color poll .

I think there already was a vote in the other "Gauging Interest" thread

. I may be wrong but if I remember right there was a conflict with another company on doing yellow.

07-04-2008, 07:17 AM	#33
2006stiguy STI Driver Car: 06 Sti WRB/Silver Fav Mod: RCE Springs Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 256 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars Ok... so I wanted to take a look at the rear bar on my car, and I can confirm that the full stiff setting will not work with the kartboy links. I have mine set on the med. setting and with my set up its spectacular! I just can't wait for the new rear bar and my new tires to try full stiff at the next auto cross.

07-04-2008, 06:04 PM	#35
stretch Silver Member Car: Aspen 2005 STi Fav Mod: TurnInConcepts.com Coilovers Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 1,781 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars The difference in roll center height is pretty minimal even if you crank camber plates to full negative, which I bet you wouldn't do. You're certainly right that the roll center raises, though, but your lowering springs had a much more drastic effect on the car's roll center. I modeled the front a year ago, but sadly I don't have the data anymore.

07-05-2008, 05:42 PM	#36
MGizzle Professional STI Racer Car: 05 STi OBP Fav Mod: Data Acq System Location: Warren, Michigan Posts: 772 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars See that's my worry Stretch. I am already lowered and moving the tops would change it again (probably bring closer to stock but then the relation ship to the rears is gone). I figured the STi Pinks will be alright since they are made by STi and the roll axis is not changed, just lowered. However, I think the biggest (and additional) reason I am worried about camber plates is that they are all solid bushing and I don't think I could live with that on the streets since it is my daily driver.

07-05-2008, 07:41 PM	#37
williaty STI Driver Car: RBP 05 2.5RS Wagon Fav Mod: Group N Lateral Link Bushings Location: Powell, OH Posts: 251 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars The solid bearing isn't NEARLY as bad as you'd think. It's a little bit noisier over rumble strips and stuff, but that's really it.

07-27-2008, 11:59 PM	#38
viaburn26 Banned Car: White 04 WRX STi Fav Mod: Crawford Air/Oil Separator Location: Richmond VA Posts: 213 Join Date: Dec 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars so are the rce sways out yet , can't find them .

08-17-2008, 12:42 PM	#41
viaburn26 Banned Car: White 04 WRX STi Fav Mod: Crawford Air/Oil Separator Location: Richmond VA Posts: 213 Join Date: Dec 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars when are they coming out arghhh , hope their yellow

08-17-2008, 04:51 PM	#43
ATTI2D Senior STI Driver Car: JBP 04 STi Fav Mod: 17x9" on 245's ;) Location: Easton PA Posts: 331 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: TiC review of RCE anti-roll bars +1 for cherry blossum red or yellow