The Ultimate Street Suspension. - Page 3

***Draco-REX*** · 05-15-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gixx6

Great write up so far...always enjoy reading specifics in regards to upgrades and how each affects the car.

That being said how much do you think you will have spent by the time you have the ultimate street setup?

- James

Hmm.. Quite a bit, unfortunately; a little over $4K in the suspension, not counting rims/tires. But I wasn't going to compromise on this. The best ingredients make for the best results. The hard part is knowing when to compromise and when not to.

But as Williaty stated above, doing the work yourself will save a TON of money. I'd hate to think how much this would have cost if I had a shop do the work. When I first bought the STI, I was planning to swallow the bullet and have a shop do a lot of this work. But I built up my courage and did it myself. Having a frend who's done a lot of this before is a HUGE help. If you are thinking of doing the work on your suspension, find someone locally who can at least look over your shoudler and be there for any questions you have.

And ALWAYS remember: Attention to Detail counts!

Torque everything. Check everything. Go for a shakedown within walking distance of the garage to check everything before you really test out the new stuff. And always ease into the new changes. You might have improved the handling of the car, but you definately have changed the CHARACTER of the car which you should get used to first.

williaty · 05-15-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Hmm.. Quite a bit, unfortunately; a little over $4K in the suspension, not counting rims/tires.

Really?! I thought it would be way more than that. Somehow, you've managed to come in cheaper than I have. Which is confusing since you have the Ohlins and the RCE plates...

***Draco-REX*** · 05-15-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by williaty

Really?! I thought it would be way more than that. Somehow, you've managed to come in cheaper than I have. Which is confusing since you have the Ohlins and the RCE plates...

Are you sure? That's odd. I checked again, and on just parts I'm around (probably a bit over) $4K. You also don't have a front bar, or RCA kit... I think you might be counting something extra. My estimate is on just the list in the first post.

For anyone who'd curious, everything but the bushings I got from RCE. Great company. If anyone is looking into getting suspension parts, I never hesitate to recommend RCE or TiC. Both are great companies that will help you out and make sure you're set up well.

williaty · 05-15-2008, 01:57 PM

Ha, you're right. The spreadsheet I was taking that from is my "everything" spreadsheet. Stripping it down to just suspension and nothing else drops the total to below $3k, which makes more sense considering my lack of Ohlins. I am using street value for parts I was able to "do a deal" on though, so my real out of pocket is less than that, but not by much.

STI2envy · 05-16-2008, 07:54 AM

Hey Draco,

I'm having the TIC klunk killer, lock bolts, and cross member bushings installed next week and I'm thinking about purchasing the Group N Bushing too. Do you have the part numbers or names of which group N bushings you used? I see a couple of different group N bushing listed.

Thanks

monk · 05-16-2008, 07:59 AM

one thing i didn't see on your list that you kinda need: the front control arms on the 07sti are the same as the wrx. less caster = less front end grip under load = harder (read: almost impossible) to rotate the car while on track. so, you need the 06sti control arms, they are about 600$ for both of them.

***Draco-REX*** · 05-16-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by STI2envy

Hey Draco,

I'm having the TIC klunk killer, lock bolts, and cross member bushings installed next week and I'm thinking about purchasing the Group N Bushing too. Do you have the part numbers or names of which group N bushings you used? I see a couple of different group N bushing listed.

Thanks

I got all of mine from SubaruGenuineParts.com

Lateral Links:
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=750
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=749
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=751

Trailing arm (rear):
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=748

Quote:

Originally Posted by monk

one thing i didn't see on your list that you kinda need: the front control arms on the 07sti are the same as the wrx. less caster = less front end grip under load = harder (read: almost impossible) to rotate the car while on track. so, you need the 06sti control arms, they are about 600$ for both of them.

More caster would be nice. But I don't think there is enough of a reason for ~1* of caster to justify $600. As it is, I've performed the "free caster mod" and the WL ALK adds caster as well. At this point I'm up to where the stock 04-06 STI is.

STI2envy · 05-16-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

I got all of mine from SubaruGenuineParts.com

Lateral Links:
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=750
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=749
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=751

Trailing arm (rear):
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=748

More caster would be nice. But I don't think there is enough of a reason for ~1* of caster to justify $600. As it is, I've performed the "free caster mod" and the WL ALK adds caster as well. At this point I'm up to where the stock 04-06 STI is.

Cool, thanks Draco.

williaty · 05-16-2008, 10:41 AM

I know we talked about the red-pill reality of SAI, camber, and caster. Are you going to flop the plates side to side and rotate them so you get more caster and more camber when you break everything apart to do the roll center adjusters?

***Draco-REX*** · 05-16-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by williaty

I know we talked about the red-pill reality of SAI, camber, and caster. Are you going to flop the plates side to side and rotate them so you get more caster and more camber when you break everything apart to do the roll center adjusters?

I'm a little defeated by the problems we've been seeing with the Whiteline Max-C plates.. Not sure if I want to go through the hassle and end up putting them back to how they are now.

williaty · 05-16-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

I'm a little defeated by the problems we've been seeing with the Whiteline Max-C plates.. Not sure if I want to go through the hassle and end up putting them back to how they are now.

Well, keep in mind that 1) you've more track width on this one, which allows the top to move more and 2) the Max-C's have that ghetto off-center-running-the-wrong-way adjustment travel. I think you're likely to find an entirely different situation with the RCE's.

laueddy · 05-16-2008, 01:58 PM

Thanks! Sounds like you have a great car =P

I'll look forward seeing more of your reviews.

Thanks

***Draco-REX*** · 05-17-2008, 07:05 PM

Sorry it's takign so long for the next section. Been really busy with a scheduling Snafu..

williaty · 05-17-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Sorry it's takign so long for the next section. Been really busy with a scheduling Snafu..

Snafu... interesting way of putting it.

***Draco-REX*** · 05-18-2008, 06:43 PM

Posted my first AutoCross impressions in the Conclusions post.

Short version: Great suspension, but needs tuning.

05-15-2008, 01:57 PM	#34
williaty Junior STI Driver Car: RBP 05 2.5RS Wagon Fav Mod: Group N Lateral Link Bushings Location: Powell, OH Posts: 180 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. Ha, you're right. The spreadsheet I was taking that from is my "everything" spreadsheet. Stripping it down to just suspension and nothing else drops the total to below $3k, which makes more sense considering my lack of Ohlins. I am using street value for parts I was able to "do a deal" on though, so my real out of pocket is less than that, but not by much.

05-16-2008, 07:54 AM	#35
STI2envy Junior STI Driver Car: 07 SWP STI Fav Mod: Cobb AP v.2 Location: East Bay Posts: 88 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. Hey Draco, I'm having the TIC klunk killer, lock bolts, and cross member bushings installed next week and I'm thinking about purchasing the Group N Bushing too. Do you have the part numbers or names of which group N bushings you used? I see a couple of different group N bushing listed. Thanks

05-16-2008, 07:59 AM	#36
monk Junior STI Driver Car: 07 OBP STi Fav Mod: patience Location: GA Posts: 92 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. one thing i didn't see on your list that you kinda need: the front control arms on the 07sti are the same as the wrx. less caster = less front end grip under load = harder (read: almost impossible) to rotate the car while on track. so, you need the 06sti control arms, they are about 600$ for both of them.

05-16-2008, 10:41 AM	#39
williaty Junior STI Driver Car: RBP 05 2.5RS Wagon Fav Mod: Group N Lateral Link Bushings Location: Powell, OH Posts: 180 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. I know we talked about the red-pill reality of SAI, camber, and caster. Are you going to flop the plates side to side and rotate them so you get more caster and more camber when you break everything apart to do the roll center adjusters?

05-16-2008, 01:58 PM	#42
laueddy STI Driver Posts: 215 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. Thanks! Sounds like you have a great car =P I'll look forward seeing more of your reviews. Thanks

05-17-2008, 07:05 PM	#43
*Draco-REX* Black Dragon STI Car: 07 OBP STi 03WRB WRX Fav Mod: My whole suspension Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,395 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. Sorry it's takign so long for the next section. Been really busy with a scheduling Snafu..

05-18-2008, 06:43 PM	#45
*Draco-REX* Black Dragon STI Car: 07 OBP STi 03WRB WRX Fav Mod: My whole suspension Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,395 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The Ultimate Street Suspension. Posted my first AutoCross impressions in the Conclusions post. Short version: Great suspension, but needs tuning. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.