ProTune at Gruppe-S on 6/10/2006 - Page 2

CreoWRX · 06-12-2006, 02:01 AM

That's basically what Mike told me when I brought my Legacy in the other week (except that I get to keep my intake - K&N Typhoon). To make it more challenging, I'm going to put in a TD06H-18G, AVO fuel pump, and Nismo 740cc injectors in a couple weeks so that he has to ProTune it.

-Mike-

2fas4u · 06-12-2006, 03:50 AM

I will never understand why a tuner wont tune for what you have? Why did you have to put the stock airbox back on? A simple tune could have adjusted for the CAI... Oh well guess everyone is different.....

jph · 06-12-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CreoWRX

That's basically what Mike told me when I brought my Legacy in the other week (except that I get to keep my intake - K&N Typhoon). To make it more challenging, I'm going to put in a TD06H-18G, AVO fuel pump, and Nismo 740cc injectors in a couple weeks so that he has to ProTune it.

-Mike-

awesome!
that's the turbo i have on top of my list right now.
i'd LOVE to hear all about it once it's all installed and tuned!

J.

zeroGsti · 06-12-2006, 11:38 AM

Well its not that he couldnt tune it, he was just saying that it would cost the $195 to ProTune it and why waste the money when you could just put the stock airbox back to get the same results or actually a little better. My torque on the base run was around 274@4000rpm. He said that I lost a little torque because of the intake due to the readings from the MAF and it was running lean, so If I was to put the stock airbox back the torque would jump to around 285@4000rpm and the leaning would stop. He said that I should get it ProTuned if I were to go bigger turbo or if I go front mount intercooler and that it would be worth the wait to spend the money at that time. I think he was just being honest and you dont really get alot of honest guys out there. Most shops try to make money off of you no matter what. I really appreciate his honesty and I will go back for all my needs.

CreoWRX · 06-13-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fas4u

I will never understand why a tuner wont tune for what you have? Why did you have to put the stock airbox back on? A simple tune could have adjusted for the CAI... Oh well guess everyone is different.....

Mike doesn't say he won't ProTune the car, but rather that the cost/benefit of doing so may not yield a rate of return that's worthwhile (but everyone is different). If you tell him to ProTune after his suggestion(s), he'll take your money and get to work.

However, If zeroGsti sells his intake for >$75 he'll have the net gain of more torque, the cost of the baseline runs covered, and possibly more money in his pocket. Sounds like a good deal to me.

-Mike-

zeroGsti · 06-14-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CreoWRX

Mike doesn't say he won't ProTune the car, but rather that the cost/benefit of doing so may not yield a rate of return that's worthwhile (but everyone is different). If you tell him to ProTune after his suggestion(s), he'll take your money and get to work.

However, If zeroGsti sells his intake for >$75 he'll have the net gain of more torque, the cost of the baseline runs covered, and possibly more money in his pocket. Sounds like a good deal to me.

-Mike-

EXACTLY!! But I am going to keep the intake because it can be a short ram intake also. I'm most likely to go front mount intercooler and bigger turbo. At that time I'm sure i'll get it Protuned by Mike.

Bolshoi125 · 06-14-2006, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zeroGsti

EXACTLY!! But I am going to keep the intake because it can be a short ram intake also. I'm most likely to go front mount intercooler and bigger turbo. At that time I'm sure i'll get it Protuned by Mike.

Man I'm Jealous!!!

Homi Mike · 06-18-2006, 07:37 PM

Mike @ gruppe-s didn't want to tune it because the healty number the OP's car is putting down. For people who have no idea about dyno readings, the Gruppe-S' mustang dyno is one of the lowest reading dyno in the country. 274whp on gruppe-s' dyno can easily be over 300+whp on a dyno jet in the same area. A protune might not add must of difference.

BEEZ · 11-30-2006, 10:59 AM

Hello,

It is my understanding that Mike left Gruppe-s in the bay area california. I really need him to load the stock or chipped file when i remove me turbo setup next week. Does anyone know where he is or how to get a hold of him?Thank you!

R4ND0M_AX3 · 12-04-2006, 09:03 AM

He was out at Thunderhill with the GOTO team this weekend.

He's still getting his shop setup.

HumboldtBlazer · 12-04-2006, 04:23 PM

PM him and he will help you. Don't know his handle here but on i-club it is uk n00b. And yes, he was @ T-Hill this weekend.

BEEZ · 12-05-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HumboldtBlazer

PM him and he will help you. Don't know his handle here but on i-club it is uk n00b. And yes, he was @ T-Hill this weekend.

thank you, just waiting to hear back from him.

R4ND0M_AX3 · 12-14-2006, 03:00 PM

He's in his new shop now.

GST Motorsports
2439 Industrial Parkway West, Suite A
Hayward, CA 94545
Tel : (510) 264-9049

BEEZ · 12-14-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3

He's in his new shop now.

GST Motorsports
2439 Industrial Parkway West, Suite A
Hayward, CA 94545
Tel : (510) 264-9049

Thank you. I will be there tomorrow for a reflash, can't wait to see the new shop. Mike =

blacksti05 · 12-18-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BEEZ

Thank you. I will be there tomorrow for a reflash, can't wait to see the new shop. Mike =

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06-12-2006, 02:01 AM	#16
CreoWRX Grassroots STI Racer Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 513 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	That's basically what Mike told me when I brought my Legacy in the other week (except that I get to keep my intake - K&N Typhoon). To make it more challenging, I'm going to put in a TD06H-18G, AVO fuel pump, and Nismo 740cc injectors in a couple weeks so that he has to ProTune it. -Mike- This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

06-12-2006, 11:38 AM	#19
zeroGsti Junior STI Driver Car: 2004 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: so far.... COBB ACCESS PORT FLASHED TO 91 OCTANE STAGE 2 OFF THE SHELF MAP using a Mustang Dyno... Location: Nine One Sickness!! Sacr Posts:* 83 IWSTI Addict since: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Well its not that he couldnt tune it, he was just saying that it would cost the $195 to ProTune it and why waste the money when you could just put the stock airbox back to get the same results or actually a little better. My torque on the base run was around 274@4000rpm. He said that I lost a little torque because of the intake due to the readings from the MAF and it was running lean, so If I was to put the stock airbox back the torque would jump to around 285@4000rpm and the leaning would stop. He said that I should get it ProTuned if I were to go bigger turbo or if I go front mount intercooler and that it would be worth the wait to spend the money at that time. I think he was just being honest and you dont really get alot of honest guys out there. Most shops try to make money off of you no matter what. I really appreciate his honesty and I will go back for all my needs. Last edited by zeroGsti; 06-12-2006 at 11:51 AM.

11-30-2006, 10:59 AM	#24
BEEZ Junior STI Driver Car: 2004 Subaru STi Fav Mod: camber plates Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 84 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Mike from Gruppe-S?? Where for art thou? Hello, It is my understanding that Mike left Gruppe-s in the bay area california. I really need him to load the stock or chipped file when i remove me turbo setup next week. Does anyone know where he is or how to get a hold of him?Thank you!

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06-12-2006, 03:50 AM	#17
2fas4u Silver Member Car: 05 & 09 WRB STI Location: Manchester, Maryland Posts: 2,270 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	I will never understand why a tuner wont tune for what you have? Why did you have to put the stock airbox back on? A simple tune could have adjusted for the CAI... Oh well guess everyone is different.....

06-18-2006, 07:37 PM	#23
Homi Mike Junior STI Driver Car: 94 Miata R 04 STi Fav Mod: Gotta be more and more seat time Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 93 IWSTI Addict since: Feb 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Mike @ gruppe-s didn't want to tune it because the healty number the OP's car is putting down. For people who have no idea about dyno readings, the Gruppe-S' mustang dyno is one of the lowest reading dyno in the country. 274whp on gruppe-s' dyno can easily be over 300+whp on a dyno jet in the same area. A protune might not add must of difference.

12-04-2006, 09:03 AM	#25
R4ND0M_AX3 Grassroots STI Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Cobb StreetTUNER Location: Elk Grove, CA USA Posts: 591 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	He was out at Thunderhill with the GOTO team this weekend. He's still getting his shop setup.

12-04-2006, 04:23 PM	#26
HumboldtBlazer STI Driver Car: 05 Subaru STi Fav Mod: hazard button Location: Slumboldt Posts: 290 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	PM him and he will help you. Don't know his handle here but on i-club it is uk n00b. And yes, he was @ T-Hill this weekend.

12-14-2006, 03:00 PM	#28
R4ND0M_AX3 Grassroots STI Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Cobb StreetTUNER Location: Elk Grove, CA USA Posts: 591 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	He's in his new shop now. GST Motorsports 2439 Industrial Parkway West, Suite A Hayward, CA 94545 Tel : (510) 264-9049