[rzezeski]

Originally Posted by ESsTeAEyEe

Sweet numbers, more important you say it pulls like a freight train

I like the "to the hubs" You wont want to get some of these guys started, cause they wont shut up..

Yea the last guy that claimed wheel hp on a dynapack got burned at the stake; so I was careful with my wording.

And yes the most important thing is how it feels to me, because there are any number of ways to make a dyno plot look the way you want it to look. Once I replace my motor mounts i'm going to have to visit a drag strip and see what she can do. I've never been before, it would be nice to go with some fellow scubie owners for my first time.

[LightWerkz]

I still say my numbers are to the wheels, f*ck people...

All I care about is the before and after horsepower...thats where you see the difference in hp made

[rzezeski]

Originally Posted by ESsTeAEyEe

I still say my numbers are to the wheels, f*ck people...

All I care about is the before and after horsepower...thats where you see the difference in hp made

Yea, like I said above a stock STi is usually around 240-250 on their dynapack (which seems to be right around what people get on dynojets). So if we assume my car made 250/250 bone stock then that means +69HP and +90TQ. Considering my only major mechanical mod is the TBE, i'd say my car did pretty well. Jeremy even said that's the most torque he's seen down low on any "stage 2" car that's been in their shop.

The lower line on the dyno plot is the protune base map incase your wondering (with my exhaust and plugs already on). As you can see jeremy and hill improved on that map quite well too.

Oh and one other thing. I've seen a lot of people who go catless do the no plug fouler mod to keep the secondary O2 in check. However, they just diasbled my emissions codes in the base map. They said I won't get a CEL for the O2 sensor and I will still go through emissions just fine .

[LightWerkz]

Nice nice......

I was also tuned on a dynapack..

And a stock sti put down 243hp on the same dynapack right after I was tuned...

[revnup]

Originally Posted by rzezeski

Yea the last guy that claimed wheel hp on a dynapack got burned at the stake; so I was careful with my wording.

I'm still a little singed.

[Insane06STi]

Originally Posted by rzezeski

Yea the last guy that claimed wheel hp on a dynapack got burned at the stake; so I was careful with my wording.

And yes the most important thing is how it feels to me, because there are any number of ways to make a dyno plot look the way you want it to look. Once I replace my motor mounts i'm going to have to visit a drag strip and see what she can do. I've never been before, it would be nice to go with some fellow scubie owners for my first time.

Lets go, MIR.

[005sti]

Originally Posted by rzezeski

Yea the last guy that claimed wheel hp on a dynapack got burned at the stake; so I was careful with my wording.

And yes the most important thing is how it feels to me, because there are any number of ways to make a dyno plot look the way you want it to look. Once I replace my motor mounts i'm going to have to visit a drag strip and see what she can do. I've never been before, it would be nice to go with some fellow scubie owners for my first time.

It is to the wheels because they factor in the diameter of your wheels to calculate rotational inertia, etc, in order to get you whp and wtq #s. Agile rules!! Congrats. BTW, I drove all the way there from Va beach when they protuned mine, drove back the same day in nova rush hour traffic, awakened early the next morning for a 10 hr work day, and i would do it again in a heartbeat if i needed more tuning. Like you said, good people...and dog, of course.

[rzezeski]

Originally Posted by Insane06STi

Lets go, MIR.

Once I get my solid mounts in i'm down man. Maybe make a post in mid-atlantic and try setting up a track night for sometime in march?

[SpaceGhost]

Am I on NASIOC?

[JBalla1036]

Originally Posted by SpaceGhost

Am I on NASIOC?

I know right???

[Agile Auto]

The Dynapack is in fact making a hub measurement and converting that into a wheel tq and hp reading. The true hub output on this car is well over 1150ft/lbs of torque. The tire size must be entered to get the exact diameter so that the readings will be accurate. The wheel weight is kind of moot point considering the weight isn't ever there when we dyno. We look at the gains, see how much we made and if it's right we send the car. But if you really want to look at the rotating mass then you need to weigh the internal components of the Dynapack's rotating assembly. All these parts in the hydraulic motors have a lot of mass. The motor parts, the hydraulic fluid, the hubs, and hardware for the hubs all put weight back into the cars rotating mass. The centering washers, lug nuts, and hub for one wheel weigh 16.5 pounds. With the weight of the rotating parts of the hydraulic motors we're well past the weight of a standard wheel and tire package. I’m not going to take apart my Dynapack and weigh its parts for the sake of argument but rest assured that the hydraulic components are very heavy. We have had great luck with our Dynapack. It reads right where it's supposed to, maybe even a little low. All of that said, it really doesn't matter what the exact numbers are since we all know dyno to dyno comparisons are a waste of time. You should see some variations. It's totally normal. You would likely even see the same discrepancy from Dynapack to Dynapack and Mustang Dyno to Mustang Dyno.
-Hill
Agile

[Sti491]

Note: Dyno charts and pics added!

Awesome experience! Hill, Jeremy, everyone at Agile are great to work with.

We added colder plugs, Cobb SF intake and Prodrive boost solenoid (EBS). Rest of car was straight Cobb 93 octane Stage II when we rolled in, Cobb downpipe & TBE.

50 ft/lb gain from 289.9 to 340.0. 75 hp gain from 253.9 to 328.5. VERY HAPPY with results! Smooth power band, peak torque raised from 3,300 RPM to 4,200 rpm. I wanted to retain low end grunt and I am good with these results. The car pulls like crazy between 4,000 - 6,000 RPM now. Peak HP RPM at 5,600 is only 200 rpm higher than before and starts incrementally climbing over baseline starting at 3,200 rpm. The car backfires less than before, AFR 13.04 compared to 13.33 baseline.

The Cobb SF Intake (black powder coated with blueish filter) looks good and makes lots of new noises. Still getting used to it. Wooshy blow-off types of sounds, can hear turbo whine a lot more. The Prodrive EBS holds boost and I don't know if it's the tune or solenoid or a combination but it spools up faster (boost needle climbs much faster) and holds 19.4 lbs boost longer over the rev range. Both TQ and HP curves are much smoother than Cobb Stage II 93 octane off the shelf map.

Many kudos to Hill and his team. They answered all my questions and it was a great experience! I would reccomend Agile to anyone who wants a good tune!

[91TB78]

Which mode did you install your Prodrive solenoid in; bleed or interrupt?

[Sti491]

Geeze, not really sure. Next time I talk to Hill I'll ask. Two of the lines are attached ... one to the wastegate actuater (I think) the other to the manifold. The last one is vented.... so maybe that means "bleed"?

I've read about this before but forgot to ask during install. I'll post a pic of it when I'm on my other PC.

Can't tell you how much fun the car is to drive now. So sooooth and partial throttle roll ons 1st- 3rd around town are just amazing.

[u000gbk]

Agile Automotive is one of the best ProTUNERs on the East Coast. If you have a Subaru and want the most HP and torque you can safely get produced by the engine, see Hill at Agile Automotive in Maryland. They have a great shop and loads of expertise. Check them out at http://www.agileauto.com/ . I have been there 3 times ... I have had excellent results gettting work done on my car. They are very professional and thorough.

They get 5 stars !!!!!