Xoticmotorsports tuning - Page 3

C43 · 10-25-2005, 03:46 PM

Thanks I will order one. I will post the other dyno run soon.

C43 · 10-25-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aspensti05

Who drives at full throttle in traffic?!

I have this heat shield from cobb:

$50+shipping.

How do you like? Did you feel a difference? Do you guys think wrapping the turbo and DP really helps? I have searched and there are so many different opions. I have some fabric headshield material I was going to use for my Triumph but the Suby is #1 right now. I have a 1998 Mercedes C43 that I installed a HPS S/C on. My Benz is like a Cobra on crack. I am selling the C43 because I have never loved a car like my f-in STi. Thanks for all the help. I could never learned and modded my Suby without WSTI and the members. Esemes you are an inspiration to me because I have been through the same crap with all my cars, and I keep going. I thought I was crazy, but I am not the only one.

esemes · 10-26-2005, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aspensti05

I think if that was raw power it is very nice, but it's SAE corrected so I am holding back from saying that.

Personally I want a turbo with slightly less lag(~250whp at 3500 rpm) and more torque total and more torque sooner. Like this:
350/361

Look at all that torque at 3500!!!

I'm not comparing this dyno directly to yours as the two dynos are different as well as the SAE correction on yours, but I really like how early and hard the torque comes on.

please post a dyno w/ relative numbers. wha are the correction values, or better yet, what value is the Y axis?? and dyno type, CF applied to whatever.....

i am in NO WAY knocking you. that is one VERY delicious looking dyno. im wondering about that setup for myself!!

ese

norris639 · 10-26-2005, 05:20 AM

The dyno at xotics is a dynojet (models 248 & 224x).

Andy is a great tuner, He was able to get 415whp out of my DR65 on pump gas.

As for all the correction methods and stuff here ya go, there isn't that much of a difference....

And an engine bay pic...

BTW The tune was with a hydra...

norris639 · 10-26-2005, 05:37 AM

Check out Harman Motive http://www.harmanmotive.com/index.ph...lery&src=photo

EDIT: Also a Dynojet dyno

All of there sz49 tunes are in the 360's
They have a couple of sz55's in the 380's
And a GT35R (same as DR65) around 415

EDIT: All of those were pump gas numbers...

I'd say all of Andy's tunes are right where they are supposed to be...

jgheels2003 · 10-26-2005, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspensti05

I think if that was raw power it is very nice, but it's SAE corrected so I am holding back from saying that.

Personally I want a turbo with slightly less lag(~250whp at 3500 rpm) and more torque total and more torque sooner. Like this:
350/361

Look at all that torque at 3500!!!

I'm not comparing this dyno directly to yours as the two dynos are different as well as the SAE correction on yours, but I really like how early and hard the torque comes on.

C43 looks like things are coming together nicely. You can tell there is more left in the SZ from the graph, it was done with nice safety so far. Good luck with it!

On this graph, thats a ton of torque, looks like a fun ride. One thing though, the power dies off really fast after the horsepower peaks...not pulling all the way to redline. Do you know what turbo was tuned? Just curious, thanks!

aspensti05 · 10-26-2005, 05:50 AM

I believe the car in the dyno I posted has the following mods:
APS SR40 turbo with Perrin TMIC, 750 injectors, xxtuning headers, 3.5" APS TBE and ECUTEK tune.

esemes · 10-26-2005, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norris639

Check out Harman Motive http://www.harmanmotive.com/index.ph...lery&src=photo

EDIT: Also a Dynojet dyno

All of there sz49 tunes are in the 360's
They have a couple of sz55's in the 380's
And a GT35R (same as DR65) around 415

EDIT: All of those were pump gas numbers...

I'd say all of Andy's tunes are right where they are supposed to be...

Norris.....

can you get a baseline data avg??? these other numbers would be better understood that way....

bone stock, sti baseline......

-ESE

jgheels2003 · 10-26-2005, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspensti05

I believe the car in the dyno I posted has the following mods:
APS SR40 turbo with Perrin TMIC, 750 injectors, xxtuning headers, 3.5" APS TBE and ECUTEK tune.

Thanks! That makes sense with the top end. It looks like a nice set-up.

norris639 · 10-26-2005, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esemes

Norris.....

can you get a baseline data avg??? these other numbers would be better understood that way....

bone stock, sti baseline......

-ESE

Don't have a graph, might be able to get one from Andy,
They were in the 240-245 range, I think, Stock STi...

C43 · 10-26-2005, 06:41 AM

Andy is the man. He is very methodical in his tuning, going for a safe tune then tweaking for more power. I know there is more power trapped in the SZ49. Andy is cool about updates, he called me last week to stop in after hours so he could try something. By that soething I gained 50lbs of torque dow low. I will post the new dyno runs soon.

aspensti05 · 10-26-2005, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jgheels2003

Thanks! That makes sense with the top end. It looks like a nice set-up.

I'm almost ready to buy an upgraded turbo but there are so many choices and I don't want to make the wrong one. That said, that SR40 dyno is exactly what I NEED. I don't care about huge peak number. I want more power over the whole rev range and more power in the 3000-4000 area for daily driving and autox/track(road course).

But the deadbolt stuff looks great and so does the FP. The SR55 is temping, but I don't like the lag, plus with APS in general I am sketched out because of Esemes saga.

aspensti05 · 10-26-2005, 06:58 AM

C43 I'd love to see this +50 gain. Hopefully it is down in the 3000-3500 area. If it is, I'll probably end up with your turbo.

jgheels2003 · 10-26-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspensti05

I'm almost ready to buy an upgraded turbo but there are so many choices and I don't want to make the wrong one. That said, that SR40 dyno is exactly what I NEED. I don't care about huge peak number. I want more power over the whole rev range and more power in the 3000-4000 area for daily driving and autox/track(road course).

But the deadbolt stuff looks great and so does the FP. The SR55 is temping, but I don't like the lag, plus with APS in general I am sketched out because of Esemes saga.

I understand about the choices and being thorough. You are doing the right thing, and keeping it streetable is a great move. If you need any dynographs to look at from different 20g setups for info purposes don't hesistate to ask, I've got some with different sets of supporting mods. Good luck with the upgrade!

aspensti05 · 10-26-2005, 09:29 AM

Thanks JG. Sorry to pull a bit of a

on ya C43.

Can anyone give me any data on the SZ49 vs TD06H-20G?

Yes I have looked at the dynos at Harman, but if I were to go with one of these vs the SR40 I'm not sure which I would go with. the 49 seems to make more power and have a little more lag, and while the lack of lag on the 20G is awesome, the power increase doesn't thrill me(at least based on their dyno chart of 318 SAE corrected).

10-25-2005, 03:46 PM	#31
C43 Professional STI Racer Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: leather Location: Newtown to Philly every day Posts: 603 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks I will order one. I will post the other dyno run soon. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

10-26-2005, 05:20 AM	#34
norris639 Amateur STI Driver Car: 2004 WRX STi Posts: 24 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Xoticmotorsports The dyno at xotics is a dynojet (models 248 & 224x). Andy is a great tuner, He was able to get 415whp out of my DR65 on pump gas. As for all the correction methods and stuff here ya go, there isn't that much of a difference.... And an engine bay pic... BTW The tune was with a hydra... Last edited by norris639 : 01-03-2006 at 09:47 PM.

10-26-2005, 05:37 AM	#35
norris639 Amateur STI Driver Car: 2004 WRX STi Posts: 24 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Check out Harman Motive http://www.harmanmotive.com/index.ph...lery&src=photo EDIT: Also a Dynojet dyno All of there sz49 tunes are in the 360's They have a couple of sz55's in the 380's And a GT35R (same as DR65) around 415 EDIT: All of those were pump gas numbers... I'd say all of Andy's tunes are right where they are supposed to be... Last edited by norris639 : 10-26-2005 at 05:40 AM.

10-26-2005, 09:29 AM	#45
aspensti05 Spec C Club Car: BMW M5 993 Turbo Location: Southwestern, CT Posts: 1,293 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	Thanks JG. Sorry to pull a bit of a on ya C43. Can anyone give me any data on the SZ49 vs TD06H-20G? Yes I have looked at the dynos at Harman, but if I were to go with one of these vs the SR40 I'm not sure which I would go with. the 49 seems to make more power and have a little more lag, and while the lack of lag on the 20G is awesome, the power increase doesn't thrill me(at least based on their dyno chart of 318 SAE corrected). This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

10-26-2005, 05:50 AM	#37
aspensti05 Spec C Club Car: BMW M5 993 Turbo Location: Southwestern, CT Posts: 1,293 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	I believe the car in the dyno I posted has the following mods: APS SR40 turbo with Perrin TMIC, 750 injectors, xxtuning headers, 3.5" APS TBE and ECUTEK tune.

10-26-2005, 06:41 AM	#41
C43 Professional STI Racer Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: leather Location: Newtown to Philly every day Posts: 603 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Andy is the man. He is very methodical in his tuning, going for a safe tune then tweaking for more power. I know there is more power trapped in the SZ49. Andy is cool about updates, he called me last week to stop in after hours so he could try something. By that soething I gained 50lbs of torque dow low. I will post the new dyno runs soon.

10-26-2005, 06:58 AM	#43
aspensti05 Spec C Club Car: BMW M5 993 Turbo Location: Southwestern, CT Posts: 1,293 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	C43 I'd love to see this +50 gain. Hopefully it is down in the 3000-3500 area. If it is, I'll probably end up with your turbo.