[slicknick112]

Originally Posted by lackskill

Again, I believe the 300hp was simply an example. FWIW, 251 is ~ 16% below 300. Not a huge margin when you look at it that way. If we were nitpicking, I would say 280 +/- 20 would be pretty close. But I am not going to spend the time to back that up with imperical data.

True..............nitpicking. But if there wasn't, forums wouldn't be any fun.

[lackskill]

Originally Posted by slicknick112

True..............nitpicking. But if there wasn't, forums wouldn't be any fun.

[lackskill]

Originally Posted by uncle lewie

I agree a 100% with the whole timeslips argument.


HOWEVER, this forum has like eleventy billion sub sections (which at times makes it confusing and annoying) but if you go to the sub section "STi Sanctioned Motorsports" then hit the sub section above it "Fastest Times" its where you will see 1/4 times as well as slips. Thats all under the General sub section btw. IMO, just turn that all into power bragging, the dyno sheets, tunes, 1/4 times, and discussing who tuned the car to make it run that 1/4 time. This section should be re-titled "Dyno Graphs" if anything. No one would have to read the rules and one would understand, "hey, i need a dyno graph, to post here."

So... If there is already a place to post timeslips, why do they need to be posted here? I gather the idea of this section is to TRY and be able to compare one another's setups based on some kind of common denominator. If timeslips were allowed as criteria to post in this section, it would defeat the purpose. Moreover if there is already another section where they belong, this would be repetitive. I could see the argument for being able to add a timeslip and time to ones power bragging post, but being that this is supposed to be based on dyno charts, that would just be extra info. Extra info is good, but for comparison you need a common denominator. And since timeslips change at the drop of a hat they hold little weight, IMO. That is totally above and beyond the fact that people are drag racing (a pointless sport, if it can be called that) a car that many would never consider putting on a strip.

I know that all dynos read different and even the same dyno will read different from one run to the next. I have already made the argument that trying to compare any 2 cars is silly. Maybe what I envision this section is supposed to be is completely off, but I think some of you are missing the point.

[MY06SILVERSTi]

I rather see a trap speed then a dyno print out to be honest.

[SonicBoom]

Why don't we just include both when available??? Dyno graph + drag slip would be a lot of good info to make comparisons from.

[Kevin]

This forum is strictly for dyno plots. If you don't have a dyno graph either get the graph from your tuner and post it, or just put the information in your member journal.

I moved the fastest time forum up onto the index page. That forum is for discussion of drag times, sharing time slips, or sharing your experience.

[neverendingmods]

This new forum is very informative in regards to comparing what mods can yield what at X psi on a particular dyno model.

Suggestion. How about making a sticky and having the most common dyno's and what a STi puts down stock(there will always be a +/- factor) on that particular dyno.

Example. STi stock puts down 245hp/tq +or- 12 on a DynoJet Dyno.
STi stock puts down ............ +or-12 on a mustang Dyno.
Etc.


There are only what? 4 or 5 common dyno's for us awd guys. Mustang, DynoJet, DynaPak, and ?

How temp and elevation affect performance is covered in Engine performance and also Proven in Time Slip Forums. Maybe a link to those threads in other forums in the sticky.

Just some thoughts and ideas. I like this Forums layout and dynograph requirements. Everyone shifts differently andt 60ft is the key which is covered elsewhere to what times are yielded which goes back to elevation and temp all covered elsewhere.

Cheers

[Inn-Tune]

I know there's a timeslips section and they can stay there.

I've personally seen a 25% power range for the same car on different dynos without funny business taking place. That's enough variation that calling a dyno number proven power is just silly and that's all I'm saying.

Originally Posted by uncle lewie

This section should be re-titled "Dyno Graphs" if anything. No one would have to read the rules and one would understand, "hey, i need a dyno graph, to post here."

Hey look someone gets it!!!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by neverendingmods

This new forum is very informative in regards to comparing what mods can yield what at X psi on a particular dyno model.

Suggestion. How about making a sticky and having the most common dyno's and what a STi puts down stock(there will always be a +/- factor) on that particular dyno.

Example. STi stock puts down 245hp/tq +or- 12 on a DynoJet Dyno.
STi stock puts down ............ +or-12 on a mustang Dyno.
Etc.


There are only what? 4 or 5 common dyno's for us awd guys. Mustang, DynoJet, DynaPak, and ?

How temp and elevation affect performance is covered in Engine performance and also Proven in Time Slip Forums. Maybe a link to those threads in other forums in the sticky.

Just some thoughts and ideas. I like this Forums layout and dynograph requirements. Everyone shifts differently andt 60ft is the key which is covered elsewhere to what times are yielded which goes back to elevation and temp all covered elsewhere.

Cheers

Sounds good in theory but it also sounds like a lot of time/effort that I don't have to commit to this at the moment. If you would like to organize this and interact with the moderator team on maintaining such a thread and would enjoy the responsibility, I will see what I can do about making sure such an index thread would be stickied and receive attention. There is also a site contributor icon in the works that would appear in your post detail and below your text for special contributions such as this. For example, the subie love heart could be just the ticket.