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Old 12-27-2007, 06:46 PM   #1
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Here is my honest best attempt at HDR.





I used five images, two under, two over, and one regular exposed. I used both photoshop and photomatix. Canon point and click SD630, ISO80.

What I want, is to be able to create images like this:



So please, photogurus of IWSTI, tell me how to do such? Way more time in photoshop? SLR? They are moving shots so I am assuming the RAW feature is needed to create such a finished project?

Any help is appreciated!!


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Old 12-30-2007, 06:23 PM   #2
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That pic of the rs is just ps. One pic taken and then changed the EV in PS...what you should do is practice with tone mapping (Ctrl+T in Photomatix).
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:57 PM   #3
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Well, after some more research, I decided to pull the trigger on an XTi eBay kit special. Standard lens as well as wide angle, 75-300 and some crappy extras.

CANON EOS Digital Rebel XTi 400D 3 LENS 4GB =FREE SHIP= - eBay (item 140193287948 end time Jan-02-08 11:03:10 PST)

This thing will definitely be able to produce some good RAW images so I can take a better stab at HDR.

I did a lot of reading and the XTi seems to be a great starter SLR.

Any advice from those experienced would be awesome.

Thanks guys.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:26 PM   #4
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learn to shoot first before you dive into photoshop/HDR/etc.

and the 2nd pic you posted isn't HDR
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:28 PM   #5
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you could have gotten a much better deal on that camera...random ebay kits FTL.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:39 PM   #6
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HDR takes a while to get the hang of Just keep playing with it.

As for the second photo, the coloring is not camera created. You could read up on a few photoshop tutorials and play around.

The XTi is a certainly a great start, even if the kit is under/overvalued I believe that you will be pleased with your purchase! Before you buy anything else for the camera play around with it for a few minutes. You will begin to learn what style / type of shots you prefer and as a result the telephoto range (or prime) that you enjoy shooting in, filters you enjoy, etc.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:54 PM   #7
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Thanks for the advice, Alex. Will do.

Parker: If not HDR, then what would you say it is? Solely, messing with exposure values of a RAW image? The only reason I bought an eBay kit is because purchasing the body and lenses were much more expensive on newegg, camera sites etc. Where do you purchase your photography hardware from?
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:36 PM   #8
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I believe its just heavily played with in photoshop, with a substantial amount of adjustment to saturation, curves, lines and coloring

If that is not the case, I would be curious to see what equipment was used to take the photo. Another reason why I doubt its HDR is simply that I doubt you could get consistent enough photos without a lot of movement while adjusting the exposure settings to take this particular photo.

Is there no way to contact the photographer?

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Old 01-03-2008, 04:52 AM   #9
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Well you can also produce HDR images by capturing a single RAW image. [Another reason why I purchased an SLR camera, in addition to me wanting to get more serious about photography, is that my Powershot 630 couldn't shoot RAW images]

However, the more and more I read about changing curves, ev, etc. the more I feel that it is heavy photoshop effects than a traditional HDR process.
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On first glance that picture is all photoshop. They may have used a graduated ND filter but other than that, the artist layed down a couple great layers to make that shot. I wish I could do that.

I've been messing around with HDR also but purely with a tripod and inanimate objects. It's been rough going thus far. I'm just not able to bring out those lowlights the way I intended. I might try deegee's idea of taking one raw exposure and manipulate 2 more EV layers. I need some photoshop classes STAT!
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Thanks for the advice, Alex. Will do.

Parker: If not HDR, then what would you say it is? Solely, messing with exposure values of a RAW image? The only reason I bought an eBay kit is because purchasing the body and lenses were much more expensive on newegg, camera sites etc. Where do you purchase your photography hardware from?
Cameta Camera...yes, they have ebay kits but they're real deals instead of these hoax type companies that give you a bunch of crap. those lenses, especially the "wide angle" is pure crap.
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Bhphotovideo.com for my camera gear.

True HDR requires multiple exposures of the same scene. You can't get a true HDR shot with that much motion in it, as everything would be blurry when you line the exposures up.
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Here is my honest best attempt at HDR.





I used five images, two under, two over, and one regular exposed. I used both photoshop and photomatix. Canon point and click SD630, ISO80.

What I want, is to be able to create images like this:



So please, photogurus of IWSTI, tell me how to do such? Way more time in photoshop? SLR? They are moving shots so I am assuming the RAW feature is needed to create such a finished project?

Any help is appreciated!!
I am by no means an expert but I am fairly certain that photograph was taken by a camera attached to the front underside of the vehicle. It is one photograph. I will stand corrected if somebody else knows more than I do.

The arm for the camera is then edited out in post production and some additional effects could be applied.

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I am by no means an expert but I am fairly certain that photograph was taken by a camera attached to the front underside of the vehicle. It is one photograph. I will stand corrected if somebody else knows more than I do.

The arm for the camera is then edited out in post production and some additional effects could be applied.

Then I'd love to see the original.
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I am by no means an expert but I am fairly certain that photograph was taken by a camera attached to the front underside of the vehicle. It is one photograph. I will stand corrected if somebody else knows more than I do.

The arm for the camera is then edited out in post production and some additional effects could be applied.

whereas i'd like to agree with you, I don't think this is the case for this photo. the camera would be sticking out into the other lane of traffic and if those cars in the rear are real, I highly doubt this driver would do something like this.


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