[StoreBoght]

Originally Posted by MorePSiTehBett4

dude, he can port his turbo and port his wastegate and still creep, he can get a different turbo and still creep...the point is what is best for him is to wait to get the accessport because it is better for the car

I have experienced this violent fuel cut, i think it's best that his car doesn't have to

how is it better for the car? trust me, i agree he should get it tuned, but the stock ecu will still adjust and learn for the tbe. the power will be increased with an off the shelf map and maximized with a protune.

i have hit fuel cut with my vf39 on the stage 2 map, a protune and with my 20g.

Originally Posted by MorePSiTehBett4

I have experienced this violent fuel cut, i think it's best that his car doesn't have to

so how will he not creep and hit fuel cut? the only way is to port the turbo. and that comes from mike at gruppe-s, who is one of the best tuners as you know.

[East Bay STi]

Originally Posted by Peleg

Man, everytime I drive my integra, the whole world wants to race.

Drive the STi, people back off.......


Sorry for the rant.

Ha ha, get a sl33p3r like mine. Took a S4 earlier today it was 2 models ago though
Still the look on his face when my lil egg took him was hilarious, then he says to me something about checking my sparkplugs because of the black smoke coming out of my exhaust. I just looked at him and laughed

-Gio

[Peleg]

Originally Posted by East Bay STi

Ha ha, get a sl33p3r like mine. Took a S4 earlier today it was 2 models ago though
Still the look on his face when my lil egg took him was hilarious, then he says to me something about checking my sparkplugs because of the black smoke coming out of my exhaust. I just looked at him and laughed

-Gio

If I had the money, I'd get the JRS kit for the Integra, rebuild the engine, bigger brakes, new clutch, tune....maybe someday...

You are talking about the 2.7L Twin Turbo S4?

I have a co-worker who has one, with chip and exhaust. He's actually planning to sell it.

[East Bay STi]

Originally Posted by Peleg

If I had the money, I'd get the JRS kit for the Integra, rebuild the engine, bigger brakes, new clutch, tune....maybe someday...

You are talking about the 2.7L Twin Turbo S4?

I have a co-worker who has one, with chip and exhaust. He's actually planning to sell it.

Not sure if it was an S4 it had the badge bigger brakes up front then normal, he had SSR's on his car. So yeha not really sure if it was a real S4 but it was at least 6 years older or what not, it still had the corner light tht was removeable. Anyways the look on his face, plus the reaction of the black smoke was funny as hell.

-Gio

[flatthump]

Originally Posted by MorePSiTehBett4

dude, he can port his turbo and port his wastegate and still creep, he can get a different turbo and still creep...the point is what is best for him is to wait to get the accessport because it is better for the car

I have experienced this violent fuel cut, i think it's best that his car doesn't have to

Ive read over on Nasioc that it may be a issue with the casting process itself. So some may have the problem and some wont.

If the porting(more like shaving a lip leading to wastegate) is done right, your creep will be gone.

[MorePSiTehBett4]

Originally Posted by StoreBoght

how is it better for the car? trust me, i agree he should get it tuned, but the stock ecu will still adjust and learn for the tbe. the power will be increased with an off the shelf map and maximized with a protune.

i have hit fuel cut with my vf39 on the stage 2 map, a protune and with my 20g.



[b][u]so how will he not creep and hit fuel cut? the only way is to port the turbo. and that comes from mike at gruppe-s, who is one of the best tuners as you know.

how is it better for the em better for the car...timing, afr, makes your car hold consistent boost, etc. i am no pro, but this I know...don't run without em with a tbe..end of story
you can advise others of whatever you want..but coming in this thread and saying what you're saying is incorrect and will cause people to damage their cars.

The only reason I am saying what i'm saying is becuause i care about his car, and I won't allow you to tell him it's safe when it isn't...

stock computer will not adapt properly to a tbe, because it can't get any consistent numbers to adapt to

it's also funny how you said that mike says that you can port the turbo and have no problems with creep, i'll be sure to ask him about saying that next time i see him..i could have sworn i've heard that the vf39 could still creep with a ported wastegate and ported turbo or even a new turbo...hmmm i'll have to ask him

by the way, i haven't creeped since i had a protune...

[StoreBoght]

here you go, you even posted on this thread

Appt with Gruppe-S next Moday

in over a year's worth of reading i have done on this forum, there have been lots of "what should i get first" threads regarding em or tbe. its always a toss up. never have i seen anyone say it is bad to run a car with a tbe and no em. can you show a post?

[MorePSiTehBett4]

Originally Posted by StoreBoght

here you go, you even posted on this thread

Appt with Gruppe-S next Moday

in over a year's worth of reading i have done on this forum, there have been lots of "what should i get first" threads regarding em or tbe. its always a toss up. never have i seen anyone say it is bad to run a car with a tbe and no em. can you show a post?

dude all I know is he you can port the wastegate and you can port your turbo and still creep. and like you know you can creep on other turbos as well


ok you got me, his car will not blow up without em, but some think it will and all my friends agree with me on the point that you really should have em with a tbe. The point is that it's important for his computer to know what's going on with his engine. Without em, his ecu will be getting different boost levels at different loads etc. It will never run at or near it's best

[munky69]

i pick up my turbo form mike tomorrow, hopefully the creep is gone... i agree that em with a tbe is a good idea. but i did run for like 6 months without it . should be ok in the summer,but it def isn't running as well as it could

[East Bay STi]

Sup fellas!!!!!! Happy 4th of July!!!!!!!!

-Gio

[SUBIRU]

happy 4th!

[munky69]

phhht damn holiday is the reason i gotta wait till wed for my turbo maybe blowing something up will make me feel better

[East Bay STi]

It's all about blowing sh*t up to make you feel better

[MorePSiTehBett4]

nothing like a good m80 here in sacramento...i don't know whether to celebrate or hit the deck lol

[jph]

Originally Posted by munky69

phhht damn holiday is the reason i gotta wait till wed for my turbo maybe blowing something up will make me feel better

what turbo ?

just got back from two days in santa cruz and and afternoon in half moon bay
been driving the jetta for two days

did see a nice R32 in SC though... too bad the owner didn't look like he was used to driving a manual transmission. i thought he was going to stall it constantly.

sounded pretty nice too, think it had exhaust, but looked stock.

then i say a blue sti in half moon bay (pillar point) was parked next to a sherrif, then drove off and parked near the restaurants.


any south san jose sti's going to gather somewhere to watch fireworks ?


J.