Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta - Page 2

parkergc8 · 06-18-2008, 10:27 AM

A. it's not an automatic. It doesn't have a torque converter. It's basically a dsg with a computer that can shift automatically. I can see the argument here but it's not like this trans performs horribly.

B. Nissan had a press release stating they were on stock tires.

chargedvette02 · 06-18-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by parkergc8

A. it's not an automatic. It doesn't have a torque converter.

B. Nissan had a press release stating they were on stock tires.

what with e-penis' lately?

It IS a semiAUTOMATIC or manumatic (something like that lol) = boring as hell to drive. Why wouldn't Nissan have that as an option and make the stick standard?

Oh I forgot, that is all IMO obviously.

parkergc8 · 06-18-2008, 10:31 AM

they didn't develop a stick shift.

I imagine they would have had to compromise something to do it old school.

(parker is not a Nissan engineer)

chargedvette02 · 06-18-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by parkergc8

they didn't develop a stick shift.

I imagine they would have had to compromise something to do it old school.

(parker is not a Nissan engineer)

Yeah, they fugged it up just like the EVO X MR.

blurred · 06-18-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stretch

I love how Cobb just beta tests their flashes on their customers' cars. Cobb's flash for the Mazdaspeed3 certainly isn't going well enough that I'd trust them on a GT-R.

On the GT-R, I have to say this:
The Truth About the Nissan GT-R and the Nürburgring Lap Record | The Truth About Cars
2009 Nissan GT-R Review | The Truth About Cars

I really don't like that web site, but in this case they make good points. I think the GT-R love-fest will be short lived.

it was run on stock re070's which "look" like cut slicks. the "quote" about the tires has been modified as nissan said they could have used them to get a time, but didnt.
NO manufacturer is allowed to run a full timed lap there... all of the manufacturer times are from pit out to the final corner, including teh z06 time.
conditions are always different at the ring, and have no bearing unless the track is wet (as it partially was for the gtr).

that site had nice "points" however it would have been nicer if they had "facts" instead of (conspiracy) theories.

parkergc8 · 06-18-2008, 10:41 AM

Yeah, I would prefer to see auto companies develop the perfect manual trani. (perfect syncros, awesome strength)

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I love how Cobb just beta tests their flashes on their customers' cars. Cobb's flash for the Mazdaspeed3 certainly isn't going well enough that I'd trust them on a GT-R.

I don't understand your post. Do you think Cobb has not done any testing or development on their GTR? Should they be beta testing with some people other than customers? (who I think deserve the first shot) Have you seen any Mazdas with damage resulting from an AccessPORT? Do you have any evidence or information to sudjest it's not going well? It seems to me that given the nature of this car and the reviews (COBB Forums - View Poll Results) received, that things are going well. Especially considering how early in the revisions the maps are. Keep in mind how the AccessPORT works and how conditions can effect tuning a car.

from what I understand, the MS3's ECU is more complex than the GTR's (other than security protocols)

M3-to-STI · 06-18-2008, 10:57 AM

Why not?

Z06 posted better times from a stop than the GT-R did from a roll.

Facts are facts.

**evilSTi7** · 06-18-2008, 11:37 AM

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Why not?

Z06 posted better times from a stop than the GT-R did from a roll.

Facts are facts.

That shouldn't be surprising. going from a stop is a huge advantage when racing a car that's doing a slow roll.

stretch · 06-18-2008, 12:15 PM

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I would take the Z06 as well. Now only if they had an AWD option for the next generation Corvette.

I hope they do one better and put the engine behind the driver. That'd beat AWD any day... but would it still be in the tradition of a Corvette?

stretch · 06-18-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by parkergc8

Have you seen any Mazdas with damage resulting from an AccessPORT? Do you have any evidence or information to sudjest it's not going well?

Yes, that's just it. Air/fuel ratios are all over the place, users are getting pinging, and even Cobb is now saying their kit reduces spark plug life from 100k miles to 15k. It seems as if Cobb is tuning on a dyno and their dyno isn't simulating real-life driving completely.

And now they're doing Nissan, who has said they're going to make the ECU "tamper-proof" just to screw with the aftermarket folks. I wouldn't lend my $100k+ car to an experiment, that's for sure.

kitganzon · 08-09-2008, 02:40 PM

GTR FTW!!! It outperforms everything except 1 million dollar cars. LOL but everyone has there own opinion.

burnin4 · 08-09-2008, 10:30 PM

haha, another one of "these" threads. both cars are bad ass, each has their advantages, and I'm sure there are not that many unhappy Z06/GTR owners.

all i gotta say is the Z is a straight killer from a roll, and everyone knows street racing is king, haha! j/k!

evodon84 · 08-10-2008, 01:05 AM

Whats with all the manumatic hating going on in here. I currently have a GTI with DSG and I love it and its not boring at all. Driving my EVO and STI was fun but I actually like the DSG better. Innovation. I'm pretty sure they use these style transmissions in F1 for a reason.

The GTR is still sweet automatic style or not, and check out the latest Road and Track for its 4 track test. The GTR did really well. The Z06 is still sweet but I would choose the GTR.

jermdeez · 08-10-2008, 07:18 AM

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Regardless of what you think, the fact that they used slick tires (even if they were cut) gives them a huge advantage over the Z06, not to mention we don't know whether the z06 lap time was with a standing start or not. If you think an equal race between a gtr and a z06 on the nurburgring wouldn't be close then i think you need to reexamine the situation.

I think you need to reexamine the situation. Facts are facts you are right..............

The fact is.............on a 1:20 minute course (topgear) the z06 was beaten by 3 seconds. A HUGE HUGE Advantage........

So if you think it's as fast as the skyline............not on that track.

To the guy who said "it's still and automatic", that maybe true..........however it's an automatic that will shift fast enough to disgrace what you're capable of.

RUGBY · 08-10-2008, 11:16 AM

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all i gotta say is the Z is a straight killer from a roll

06-18-2008, 10:27 AM	#16
parkergc8 Junior STI Driver Posts: 175 Join Date: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta A. it's not an automatic. It doesn't have a torque converter. It's basically a dsg with a computer that can shift automatically. I can see the argument here but it's not like this trans performs horribly. B. Nissan had a press release stating they were on stock tires. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by parkergc8 : 08-12-2008 at 09:33 PM.

06-18-2008, 10:31 AM	#18
parkergc8 Junior STI Driver Posts: 175 Join Date: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta they didn't develop a stick shift. I imagine they would have had to compromise something to do it old school. (parker is not a Nissan engineer)

06-18-2008, 10:57 AM	#22
M3-to-STI The Next Petter Solberg Car: PSM 05 STi Fav Mod: Z06 Mod Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 956 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta Why not? Z06 posted better times from a stop than the GT-R did from a roll. Facts are facts.

08-09-2008, 02:40 PM	#26
kitganzon Junior STI Driver Car: Silver 06 WRX/STI Location: SoCal Posts: 84 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta GTR FTW!!! It outperforms everything except 1 million dollar cars. LOL but everyone has there own opinion. Last edited by kitganzon : 08-09-2008 at 02:44 PM.

08-09-2008, 10:30 PM	#27
burnin4 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 10 sec STi, 08 Z06 Fav Mod: TopSpeed Posts: 982 Join Date: Aug 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta haha, another one of "these" threads. both cars are bad ass, each has their advantages, and I'm sure there are not that many unhappy Z06/GTR owners. all i gotta say is the Z is a straight killer from a roll, and everyone knows street racing is king, haha! j/k!

08-10-2008, 01:05 AM	#28
evodon84 Professional STI Racer Car: 2006 Kawasaki Ninja Fav Mod: Power Sliding doors on my Minivan beotch Location: San Diego Posts: 692 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Let the madness begin: GT-R AccessPort Beta Whats with all the manumatic hating going on in here. I currently have a GTI with DSG and I love it and its not boring at all. Driving my EVO and STI was fun but I actually like the DSG better. Innovation. I'm pretty sure they use these style transmissions in F1 for a reason. The GTR is still sweet automatic style or not, and check out the latest Road and Track for its 4 track test. The GTR did really well. The Z06 is still sweet but I would choose the GTR.