[viperguy]

Originally Posted by Mi_Black_Pearl

damn guys take it easy alright. this isnt a dick measuring contest. first of all, im probably the most mature 20 year old you'll ever meet in your life. you dont know me, so dont go stating that i would be making a "irresponsible" or "moronic" move. i brought this thread up for a reason and that reason being to find a bike suitable for a somewhat beginner rider ok? yeah there are a lot of people out ther who make stupid mistakes but dont compare those people to me. i want to hear from those who actually have experience on these bikes compared to other bikes. with no relation to other riders. no im not looking to jump on a rocket, and no, im not necessarily saying i want the sportbike over the other types. i just want an overall picture of what the riders feel about the differences in them.

viperguy i jumped from a 50cc beginner's quad to a sport race 650cc one (because my dad surprised me with it seeing that i could i handle and believes in going big with everything so as to never tired of it later) now u might say ah well thats a quad, bla bla bla, but in the atv world, that's a huge jump expecially being that i wasnt even near 16 years old and had very lil experience still. i still managed to handle and control it and master it through time with absolutely no injuries or trouble other than for some minor with the police. eventually sold it and moved to the 450cc for certain reasons that i felt were necessary (to go for a lighter bike was one thing for sure). and again. im not comparing apples to oranges. (sti to streetbike) > not what this is about. i dont think a 250 or 400 is cutting it. i think 600 is the perfect number. and i never put any consideration into a 1000.

my biggest worry is other drivers out on the road if that takes consideration for deciding which bike

Well I have a 250 and a 400 that you will never out ride.

[Mi_Black_Pearl]

really? what kind are they then so that i can consider and look them up

[viperguy]

Originally Posted by vmaxlvrs

Hey, hey, respect your elder will ya.....
YOu might want not be such a big mouth there son, and find out more about what a vmax can and can not do, i rode with gxrs, ducaties and other sports bikes and and deffinately did not pass me not even int eh twisties, so you need too learn how to be quite and do your research and even then dont ASSUME thing because you know what happens when you ASSume things rith.
Come here dady is going to spank you now.

Ok your killing me here ..its GSXR's and Ducati's ... and yes they will hand you your butt in the twisties.

[viperguy]

Originally Posted by Mi_Black_Pearl

really? what kind are they then so that i can consider and look them up

Well look up Honda RVF 400 RR and RS 250.

Both make about 70hp and weight nothing.

[vmaxlvrs]

Originally Posted by viperguy

Ok your killing me here ..its GSXR's and Ducati's ... and yes they will hand you your butt in the twisties.

Thanks for the correction......but if you like to get technical it is gsxrs and ducaties, plural, OK? ..........been there done that, and doubt it very much. And again you are assuming a lot of thing here.

But going back to the original post i think you have somewhat experience because you been riding already. All bikes are good as long as you ride with in your abilities and confort zone. Just be sensible.

[viperguy]

Originally Posted by vmaxlvrs

Thanks for the correction......but if you like to get technical it is gsxrs and ducaties, plural, OK? ..........been there done that, and doubt it very much. And again you are assuming a lot of thing here.

But going back to the original post i think you have somewhat experience because you been riding already. All bikes are good as long as you ride with in your abilities and confort zone. Just be sensible.

I have a little experience

[matadorCE]

Originally Posted by Mi_Black_Pearl

first of all, im probably the most mature 20 year old you'll ever meet in your life.

Everyone says that.

[Mi_Black_Pearl]

haha well, you dont know me...we'll just leave it at that

[Rdrcr]

Originally Posted by god5337

How economical overall is a bike? I would like to use one to commute to work (about 10 miles to base) but heard the gas savings is not a much as i had hoped. Also, a friend said you lose the money you saved in gas, on tires. Was thinking about a bike or a beater in the 3-6k range

I ride my bike daily, it is my commuter to work and is used for small errands. I have a Buell Lightning XB with a 1203cc engine and I get on average, 50 MPG. It is true, tires don't last as long as they do on cars (though, I did go through a set of tires in 800 miles in my STi....), but it still depends on the size of wheels and the type of riding is done. In addition, motorcycle insurance can be more expensive than car insurance, so that needs to be considered.

Mike

[Boostpimp]

Originally Posted by Wolverine 250R

You will lay the thing down, so buy used. Buy good leathers and wear them everytime you get on it.

Amen.

[Foxey]

Well, by the sound of it, you're dead set on a 600- That said, buy the one that's most comfortable to you. Bikes now are all so dang close to being the same I would find it hard to believe you could even really tell a difference. If it's your first bike, why not try one a little older. Such as an '03 for an R6-The first year they started doing FI...As a first bike, you won't notice a difference between inverted forks, and the other small differences... Just a though, saving money on a first bike is always good. I don't think it matters how good you are, you will put your first bike down. You might not do it at 80, or even 20, but there will be a day when your backing it up, and all of a sudden your foot looses traction and down she goes- Small stuff you don't even think about until after it happens. Just my $.02 :dunno:

[whtwrx1991]

I would get the Suzuki Hyabusa It's a great beginner bike!

[Rdrcr]

^^^^^
From what I have read throughout this thread, I would not be surprised if the O.P. purchased a Hyabusa, though, it does not fit the 600cc requirement, which is perhaps a good thing.

Mike

[viperguy]

my money is on a 2008 R6

[Mi_Black_Pearl]

rdrcr, why would you not be surprised about me getting a 1000? haha u dont even know me man! lol enough to find out that im not the daredevil type. i can be adventurous but to my own limits buddy. i know what my limits are and the 1000 certainly exceeds them

at least viperguy you might be on the right track but i wouldnt go for a new model sportbike, used is more like it from the likelihood of dropping it down at some point somehow or another