MT 2004 Car of the Year- STi competes

DVTURK · 11-27-2003, 04:07 PM

I just received my Jan-04 edition of MT in mail yesterday and they have the Toyota Prius receiving top honors. 26 cars competed and they all ran performance tests etc.- both the STi and the Evo were among them.

The Evo was quickest to 60mph in 5.0 seconds and the STi did it in 5.1 (I guess the shift to 3rd slowed down the time). However, the STi was noted as the "1/4 mile king" ripping it in 13.35 seconds @102.58mph and the Evo in 13.5 seconds at 101.65mph. The "rally twins" as they called them pretty much cleaned house in performance figures and the BMW Z4 3.0 (5.5/14.11) put up some good skidpad and slalom numbers as well.

Good read..enjoy.

4MLA1FN · 11-28-2003, 05:14 AM

5.1.

how did car and driver get a whole .5 seconds faster? (that 4.6 better be real since it's on my license plate.

)

RadarOnPaws · 11-28-2003, 07:50 AM

What 4MLA1FN said.

0-60 times are all over the map depending on who you read. I think the majority of the articles I have read are under 5 seconds though, so I figure that's probably reliable. Also going back to the EVO vs. STi endless debate, some articles have shown the STi as quicker in the 0-60 race, not just the 1/4 mi. I'd have to search to find any of these articles again though.

bitabur · 11-28-2003, 02:30 PM

It's the other way around.

Most articles say that the Evo is faster in the 0-60 because you can do 60 in 2nd gear, unlike the STi, which has to hit third to hit 60mph. But the STi pulls ahead for the quarter mile.

RadarOnPaws · 11-28-2003, 04:07 PM

Yes, that's why I said some (only one or two, IIRC), not most or all, show it (STi) faster in 0-60. It surprised me to read it because all the rest show evo quicker 0-60.

RadarOnPaws · 11-28-2003, 04:42 PM

Actually, going back to the C&D time, look at their quote:

"But there it is: a sprint of 4.6 to 60 mph, 0.4-second faster than the Mitsubishi and a figure that's going to be hard to achieve in any car near the STi's $31,520 base price"

So there's one source that was able to launch the STi to 60 from 0 faster than the EVO.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2 about 1/2 way down.

maxwolfinger · 11-28-2003, 05:33 PM

i bet they just held second gear. .3 to .5 seconds sounds about right for a shift, and R&T got 4.9 by shifting into 3rd before 60.

matadorCE · 11-28-2003, 06:34 PM

The Prius definitely takes top honors in having THE ugliest tail lights EVAAR....they even make the crappy APC lights look good LOL

RadarOnPaws · 11-28-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwolfinger

i bet they just held second gear. .3 to .5 seconds sounds about right for a shift, and R&T got 4.9 by shifting into 3rd before 60.

What kind of RPM would that put them at?

4MLA1FN · 11-29-2003, 06:47 PM

theoretically, above readline. (??)

http://archlab.gmu.edu/~rchong/STI/rpm-vs-speed.jpg

RadarOnPaws · 11-29-2003, 08:38 PM

Yeah, like around 800 rpm over or so if my eyes squinted at the chart correctly...

SnowbordrWRX · 12-02-2003, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matadorCE

The Prius definitely takes top honors in having THE ugliest tail lights EVAAR....they even make the crappy APC lights look good LOL

What are you talking about?? Stay on topic!

amdmaxx · 12-04-2003, 04:57 AM

11-27-2003, 04:07 PM	#1
DVTURK Junior STI Driver Location: No. Virginia Posts: 176 Join Date: Dec 2002 Trader Rating: (0)	I just received my Jan-04 edition of MT in mail yesterday and they have the Toyota Prius receiving top honors. 26 cars competed and they all ran performance tests etc.- both the STi and the Evo were among them. The Evo was quickest to 60mph in 5.0 seconds and the STi did it in 5.1 (I guess the shift to 3rd slowed down the time). However, the STi was noted as the "1/4 mile king" ripping it in 13.35 seconds @102.58mph and the Evo in 13.5 seconds at 101.65mph. The "rally twins" as they called them pretty much cleaned house in performance figures and the BMW Z4 3.0 (5.5/14.11) put up some good skidpad and slalom numbers as well. Good read..enjoy. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

11-28-2003, 04:07 PM	#5
RadarOnPaws S204 Racer Posts: 2,513 Join Date: Oct 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	Tanabe Springs Yes, that's why I said some (only one or two, IIRC), not most or all, show it (STi) faster in 0-60. It surprised me to read it because all the rest show evo quicker 0-60.

12-04-2003, 04:57 AM	#13
amdmaxx Stage 2 Moderator Car: 06 Saabaru 9-2x Aero Fav Mod: Larger breasts Location: Northern NJ, USA Posts: 1,389 Join Date: Nov 2002 Trader Rating: (0)	lol This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

11-28-2003, 05:14 AM	#2
4MLA1FN hatin' ovals Car: 04 subaru wrx sti Location: alexandria, va Posts: 2,460 Join Date: Jun 2002 Trader Rating: (0)	5.1. how did car and driver get a whole .5 seconds faster? (that 4.6 better be real since it's on my license plate. )

11-28-2003, 07:50 AM	#3
RadarOnPaws S204 Racer Posts: 2,513 Join Date: Oct 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	What 4MLA1FN said. 0-60 times are all over the map depending on who you read. I think the majority of the articles I have read are under 5 seconds though, so I figure that's probably reliable. Also going back to the EVO vs. STi endless debate, some articles have shown the STi as quicker in the 0-60 race, not just the 1/4 mi. I'd have to search to find any of these articles again though.

11-28-2003, 02:30 PM	#4
bitabur Spec C Club Car: Motorcycles Fav Mod: Student Location: Western Washington Posts: 1,929 Join Date: Oct 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	It's the other way around. Most articles say that the Evo is faster in the 0-60 because you can do 60 in 2nd gear, unlike the STi, which has to hit third to hit 60mph. But the STi pulls ahead for the quarter mile.

11-28-2003, 04:42 PM	#6
RadarOnPaws S204 Racer Posts: 2,513 Join Date: Oct 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	Actually, going back to the C&D time, look at their quote: "But there it is: a sprint of 4.6 to 60 mph, 0.4-second faster than the Mitsubishi and a figure that's going to be hard to achieve in any car near the STi's $31,520 base price" So there's one source that was able to launch the STi to 60 from 0 faster than the EVO. http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2 about 1/2 way down.

11-28-2003, 05:33 PM	#7
maxwolfinger Senior STI Driver Location: Farmingdale, NJ Posts: 383 Join Date: Jul 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	i bet they just held second gear. .3 to .5 seconds sounds about right for a shift, and R&T got 4.9 by shifting into 3rd before 60.

11-28-2003, 06:34 PM	#8
matadorCE Grassroots STI Racer Location: TX Posts: 512 Join Date: Jul 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	The Prius definitely takes top honors in having THE ugliest tail lights EVAAR....they even make the crappy APC lights look good LOL

11-29-2003, 06:47 PM	#10
4MLA1FN hatin' ovals Car: 04 subaru wrx sti Location: alexandria, va Posts: 2,460 Join Date: Jun 2002 Trader Rating: (0)	theoretically, above readline. (??) http://archlab.gmu.edu/~rchong/STI/rpm-vs-speed.jpg

11-29-2003, 08:38 PM	#11
RadarOnPaws S204 Racer Posts: 2,513 Join Date: Oct 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah, like around 800 rpm over or so if my eyes squinted at the chart correctly...