[Mi_Black_Pearl]

diesel doesnt have to be slow...in fact audi surprised everyone coming into f1 racing with a v12 tdi and actually won

[jm02130]

I went to Italy in 2002 (before there were speed limits on the autostrades) and rented an Opel turbo diesel. It only had about 2 litres of displacement, but it was fast as hell, and easily cruised at 180-190 kph. Nice car.

[STIVendetta]

Never liked Diesels in a sports car...and yes still......too slow.

[wyattroa1]

yeah i drive a diesel truck right now and it is parked...diesel price is horrible right now.. im paying $4.20 a gallon... bahhhh
robert

[STi_4_Daddy]

Originally Posted by wyattroa1

yeah i drive a diesel truck right now and it is parked...diesel price is horrible right now.. im paying $4.20 a gallon... bahhhh
robert

Does that even out in coralation to the MPG?

[gabedude]

Originally Posted by stretch

Eeking out 70 more hp would mean eeking out about 120ft-lbs more torque, which is no small amount.

I like diesels but don't think they're appropriate for a sports car due to their inherently low-revving, torque-drops-as-revs-raise nature. I think it'd be great if the base Impreza or Legacy went diesel.

Tell that to Audi.

[ruffryder744]

diesel sti, interesting

[amdmaxx]

wont happen...
WRX yes, sti - no..
VW has a GT version of TDi, its just not R32/R36

[wdb]

One of the things I really like about my Subarus (I have two) is the torque. I'm a torque junkie. The thought of a torque-laden Subie diesel gives me a woody. A hot rod diesel Subie, with or without an STi moniker, sounds to me like hawtness incarnate.

And will you please stop calling the STi a sports car! Sports cars have two doors, two seats, and a soft top.

[Drxlubex]

Sti Blowin Black Smoke Ftw!

[Miloslavich]

Originally Posted by jph

tell that to audi with their Le Mans wining R10 diesel...


J.

HAHAHA i loved this post.

yeah i think they have around 6 le mans wins now... last year was their first diesel win.. and they'll prob win again this year for sure.


oh, and when they put the W-12 turbo Diesel in the R8, it'll be even more of a supercar. absolutely insane.

[Sideoiler]

Originally Posted by threader

Canadian Tar Sands in Alberta is the worlds's second largest reserve of oil and at $100US a barrel it is very profitable to extract and refine. USA should negotiate a Pact with Canadian Oil Producers and build a pipeline. Both Canada and USA could stop importing oil if they REALLY WANTED TOO. Dependence on Foreign oil is a myth created by current oil companies who have invested billions into those other countries. I call BS. Sorry for hijacking the Thread. Back to regular programming

The best place to start is to reduce the consumption. Foreign oil is a reality caused by consuming more than you produce.The US is the third largest producer of oil bbl/day. Your suggestion about making a deal with Canadian Oilsands producers
is still relying on a foreign oil supply. I work in the processing end of the industry. The oil in the Tarsands requires much more refining than the oil from the middle east. They have to used extremely high process pressures and very high temperatures to extract the oil from the sand. Think about moving a sand slurry inside a pipeline at 2000Psi...very, very expensive solutions. We ran a test valve on a coker after the competitions' valve eroded in 15 minutes. These valves are well north of $250k each and get replaced every couple months. In the middle east, they pretty much pump it into ships...lower production costs-higher profit margins.