AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus.

DaveMD · 11-20-2007, 10:45 AM

Subaru concidering non-AWD, non-boxer powered models

RichXKU · 11-20-2007, 11:54 AM

This news + 08 STi = This is the end

Excuse me, I'm going to go shrink-wrap my 05.

stretch · 11-20-2007, 12:01 PM

Who didn't see this coming?

Hopefully if Subaru makes AWD optional, the base model will be RWD. But for that to work, they're going to need to lose a little weight over the front axle by pushing the front wheels forward.

I don't see why the boxer engine would be inherently inefficient with fuel, though. It could use direct injection, but that's all.

sujak · 11-20-2007, 12:06 PM

im sorry but if the website can't even spell considering right im not going to believe a word they say

hell looking into it more they cannot spell automaker either

RFFG · 11-20-2007, 03:12 PM

That sucks...

Well...

Toyota powered Subies and viceversa anyone?

CSibson7776 · 11-20-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichXKU

This news + 08 STi = This is the end

Excuse me, I'm going to go shrink-wrap my 05.

Im with this guy!!

YeloFva · 11-20-2007, 09:07 PM

WTF?!? AWD & boxer engines are what make a Subaru, a Subaru. It's a part of their heritage.

ScubaSmith7599 · 11-21-2007, 06:16 AM

I highly doubt subaru is going to make the boxer engine optional. They just spent all that time and money developing the first ever boxer diesel engine instead of just buying the design from another car........so that just wouldn't sound logical.
Part of their heritage, sure.
More important than heritage when you're trying to make money is what it offers. Safety being a big one.

AWD? Well, if they want to start selling cars to the same people and on the same scale as Toyota/honda, then they definitely need to ditch the AWD. It's a few thousand $ extra that most people don't need. I'm pretty sure that SOA is in business because of places like Vermont and Colorado. Small number of cars overall, but I guarantee you Subaru will never go out of business as long as they keep their standard inclement weather/terrain features. I went to college in vermont and I swear almost every driveway has either a forester or outback.

I find Subaru to be like my alma mater. A small institution with proud heritage, being run by complete idiots, trying to grow out of its self and into a bigger institution while keeping those same values/characteristics yet perverting them in the process(ala 08 STI). Ain't gonna happen.

Subaru will stay in business as long as they keep doing what they've been doing. They really don't have competition within their niche, which isn't going away until the sun gets too close to the earth. When they try and venture out into the world of Toyota, Honda, and yes, Hyundai(2006+ cars are fantastic deals when brand new), then I think they're playing a dangerous game in an already crowded market.

STI_Mike · 11-21-2007, 06:24 AM

i hope it's not true i won't believe it untill i hear it from subaru but if it is true then i'm not sure if i'll contiune to buy subarus in the future.

mEnTaL · 11-21-2007, 06:39 AM

The no-boxer thing doesn't really surprise me since a while back the WRC was thinking of mandating inline-4's. I'm not sure where that decision ended up, but maybe this is a reaction to that. If they do offer optional 2wd and inline engines for the same car, I find it hard to believe they could do so on the same platform.

STUKA · 11-21-2007, 06:45 AM

What the hell that will kill SUBARU! The boxer engine + all wheel drive =Subaru! If they got rid of that they might just end up like ford.

holycow · 11-21-2007, 08:10 AM

if they got rid of their AWD and Boxer engine in order to compete with honda/toyota, honestly, I would buy a honda or toyota. I bought my subaru BECAUSE of the boxer engine and AWD.

chaos311clarity · 11-21-2007, 08:11 AM

am i the only one who doesnt care? lol im not scared by this at all

T3h_Clap · 11-21-2007, 09:41 AM

In japan subaru has plenty of FWD Boxer models.

1.5i ftw!

they also have inline 4 cylinder vehicles such as the R1, R2 and Stella.

I'd rock an R1 or an R2 in a heartbeat.

Hell, I'd rock a Stella!!

I pray subaru brings over some of these smaller cars with the sub compacts.

the Impreza/STi wont get rid of the boxer anytime soon, don't worry there.

BRING OVER THE R1 or R2!!!

sti-06 · 11-21-2007, 12:56 PM

this is like Pizza hut considering to make pizza without cheese!

11-20-2007, 10:45 AM	#1
DaveMD Junior STI Driver Car: 05 WRB STi on Gold Fav Mod: Advan RS 18x8.5 Location: Maryland Posts: 73 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. Subaru concidering non-AWD, non-boxer powered models This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

11-20-2007, 11:54 AM	#2
RichXKU Professional STI Driver Car: 05 CGM STi Fav Mod: JDM Air Spencer Location: Berks PA Posts: 498 Join Date: Jul 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. This news + 08 STi = This is the end Excuse me, I'm going to go shrink-wrap my 05.

11-20-2007, 12:01 PM	#3
stretch Silver Member Car: Aspen 2005 STi Fav Mod: TurnInConcepts.com Coilovers Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 1,811 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. Who didn't see this coming? Hopefully if Subaru makes AWD optional, the base model will be RWD. But for that to work, they're going to need to lose a little weight over the front axle by pushing the front wheels forward. I don't see why the boxer engine would be inherently inefficient with fuel, though. It could use direct injection, but that's all.

11-20-2007, 12:06 PM	#4
sujak Professional STI Racer Car: 05' AW WRX STi Fav Mod: Passport 8500 X50 Location: Illinois Posts: 741 Join Date: Jun 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. im sorry but if the website can't even spell considering right im not going to believe a word they say hell looking into it more they cannot spell automaker either

11-20-2007, 03:12 PM	#5
RFFG Spec C Club Car: 1998 Impreza GF8 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 2,458 Join Date: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. That sucks... Well... Toyota powered Subies and viceversa anyone?

11-20-2007, 09:07 PM	#7
YeloFva Spec C Club Car: 06 WRB/Gold STI Fav Mod: Sticky-icky Tires Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 1,311 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. WTF?!? AWD & boxer engines are what make a Subaru, a Subaru. It's a part of their heritage.

11-21-2007, 06:16 AM	#8
ScubaSmith7599 Grassroots STI Racer Car: Silver 05 STi Fav Mod: driving school Location: MCB Quantico, Virginia Posts: 581 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. I highly doubt subaru is going to make the boxer engine optional. They just spent all that time and money developing the first ever boxer diesel engine instead of just buying the design from another car........so that just wouldn't sound logical. Part of their heritage, sure. More important than heritage when you're trying to make money is what it offers. Safety being a big one. AWD? Well, if they want to start selling cars to the same people and on the same scale as Toyota/honda, then they definitely need to ditch the AWD. It's a few thousand $ extra that most people don't need. I'm pretty sure that SOA is in business because of places like Vermont and Colorado. Small number of cars overall, but I guarantee you Subaru will never go out of business as long as they keep their standard inclement weather/terrain features. I went to college in vermont and I swear almost every driveway has either a forester or outback. I find Subaru to be like my alma mater. A small institution with proud heritage, being run by complete idiots, trying to grow out of its self and into a bigger institution while keeping those same values/characteristics yet perverting them in the process(ala 08 STI). Ain't gonna happen. Subaru will stay in business as long as they keep doing what they've been doing. They really don't have competition within their niche, which isn't going away until the sun gets too close to the earth. When they try and venture out into the world of Toyota, Honda, and yes, Hyundai(2006+ cars are fantastic deals when brand new), then I think they're playing a dangerous game in an already crowded market.

11-21-2007, 06:24 AM	#9
STI_Mike S204 Racer Car: 05 Aspen White STI Fav Mod: Defi Gauges Location: Laguna Niguel,Ca Posts: 2,920 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. i hope it's not true i won't believe it untill i hear it from subaru but if it is true then i'm not sure if i'll contiune to buy subarus in the future.

11-21-2007, 06:39 AM	#10
mEnTaL Professional STI Racer Car: 06 WRB STi Fav Mod: moar boost Location: Auburn Hills, MI Posts: 601 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. The no-boxer thing doesn't really surprise me since a while back the WRC was thinking of mandating inline-4's. I'm not sure where that decision ended up, but maybe this is a reaction to that. If they do offer optional 2wd and inline engines for the same car, I find it hard to believe they could do so on the same platform.

11-21-2007, 06:45 AM	#11
STUKA Senior STI Driver Car: Black 07 WRX STI Fav Mod: AP Location: Barnesville PA Posts: 339 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. What the hell that will kill SUBARU! The boxer engine + all wheel drive =Subaru! If they got rid of that they might just end up like ford.

11-21-2007, 08:10 AM	#12
holycow Spec C Club Car: 07 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Stage 2 :D Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 1,043 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. if they got rid of their AWD and Boxer engine in order to compete with honda/toyota, honestly, I would buy a honda or toyota. I bought my subaru BECAUSE of the boxer engine and AWD.

11-21-2007, 08:11 AM	#13
chaos311clarity STI Guru Car: 05 CGM STi Fav Mod: grip. Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 5,757 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. am i the only one who doesnt care? lol im not scared by this at all

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11-21-2007, 12:56 PM	#15
sti-06 Spec C Club Car: 06 STi Fav Mod: boost creep!!!!! Location: SC Posts: 1,491 Join Date: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: AWD and Boxer Engines to become optional on Subarus. this is like Pizza hut considering to make pizza without cheese! This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.