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Old 10-05-2008, 07:37 PM   #3061
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Alright now don't laugh guys. I bought some strut tower bars on friday but didn't get a chance to install the front one till saturday, and tonight was the rear. Well the rear was a pain. And you know how everyone says don't over tighten or they will break. Well i was fine with the front. One of the bolts in the rear broke!!! Does anyone know if you can fix this or do I just have to wait it out till i upgrade struts/shocks can't remember which ones we have in the rear. Oh ya still waiting to be installed is perrin perrin rear diff/subframe lockdown system. I got a good deal from David at Oakos. Big ups to that place really nice and willing to show you whatever you want. And a local's discount. Very happy with the service. I would say if you want odds and ends like bushings and sway bars/ strut bars its pretty cool to just go over there and see them in person. I was thinking about getting the anti lift kit. From talking to a guy who rally races he highly reccomends them. Another thing to think about why cant you use camber plates and the anitlift kits. Wouldn't this help to give you even more camber possibilities that our cars are known to lack? Ah well I might try to make it out to Mt. Clemens tomorrow not sure though its a hike from my house. What time are you guys going out there?


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Old 10-05-2008, 07:41 PM   #3062
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Interesting... anybody did it?

I did.

But with the ALK (which already moves the front wheels foreward) the front wheels were too far foreward,...so I un-did them after about a year. The front wheels were rubbing against the fender liner in the front and wearing a hole in them.

If I didn't have an ALK,..I would definately do it again.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:46 PM   #3063
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Another thing to think about why cant you use camber plates and the anitlift kits. Wouldn't this help to give you even more camber possibilities that our cars are known to lack?

Why can't you use camber plates with an ALK? I have both.

The ALK is at the bottom rear of the lower control arm,...the camber plates at the top of the strut.

They go very well together actually.

If you only have the money for one,...get the camber plates. Then do the pin flip and spacers on the stock rear control arm bushings.

Best camer plates on the market in my opinion are the SPC ones (sometimes sold under the Eibach name).

There the third ones down on this link,...$260.

They have the most adjustment (over 2.5 degrees), and other than the Noltecs,..they are the only ones with a poly bushing. So they don;t add NVH. All theothers are steel pillow-ball. And with just steel to the chassis,..they are louder than stock (and also get dirt in them and rattle in time).

I have a used set of Noltecs I can sell for $100.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:49 PM   #3064
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Hey stu do you know if i can fix my broken bolt.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:03 PM   #3065
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arent the strut bolts press fitted like wheel studs? i dont remember, but if they are you can easily replace it. if its a welded piece youll have to wait till you replace the whole strut.

hey stu, i think you told me you had a couple of stock STi exhaust cans ( stock axle back ) laying around your place, if so do you think i can get one of them from you (possibly bring one to the meet tomorrow if you show up)?
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:06 PM   #3066
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Why can't you use camber plates with an ALK? I have both.

The ALK is at the bottom rear of the lower control arm,...the camber plates at the top of the strut.

They go very well together actually.

If you only have the money for one,...get the camber plates. Then do the pin flip and spacers on the stock rear control arm bushings.

Best camer plates on the market in my opinion are the SPC ones (sometimes sold under the Eibach name).

There the third ones down on this link,...$260.

They have the most adjustment (over 2.5 degrees), and other than the Noltecs,..they are the only ones with a poly bushing. So they don;t add NVH. All theothers are steel pillow-ball. And with just steel to the chassis,..they are louder than stock (and also get dirt in them and rattle in time).

I have a used set of Noltecs I can sell for $100.
oh really!!!! hmmmmmmmmm i gotta look into my finances and see if i can get those of your hands
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:08 PM   #3067
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Hey stu do you know if i can fix my broken bolt.
can be fixed if its a press fit type (im not to sure though)

cant be fixed if welded ( replace with a new strut or weld a new threaded rod in place) i could weld it for you if i had the time, ill keep you posted....
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:11 PM   #3068
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Alright now don't laugh guys. I bought some strut tower bars on friday but didn't get a chance to install the front one till saturday, and tonight was the rear. Well the rear was a pain. And you know how everyone says don't over tighten or they will break. Well i was fine with the front. One of the bolts in the rear broke!!! Does anyone know if you can fix this or do I just have to wait it out till i upgrade struts/shocks can't remember which ones we have in the rear. Oh ya still waiting to be installed is perrin perrin rear diff/subframe lockdown system. I got a good deal from David at Oakos. Big ups to that place really nice and willing to show you whatever you want. And a local's discount. Very happy with the service. I would say if you want odds and ends like bushings and sway bars/ strut bars its pretty cool to just go over there and see them in person. I was thinking about getting the anti lift kit. From talking to a guy who rally races he highly reccomends them. Another thing to think about why cant you use camber plates and the anitlift kits. Wouldn't this help to give you even more camber possibilities that our cars are known to lack? Ah well I might try to make it out to Mt. Clemens tomorrow not sure though its a hike from my house. What time are you guys going out there?

ill be there around 6ish
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:13 PM   #3069
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:20 AM   #3070
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haven't been over in awhile due to work being impossible to leave; going to try really hard to get out there tonight. i have already spoken to some people about it but wanted to make a public post about my missing side view mirror, i don't really want people asking about it tonight(it makes me sad).

i was driving down the freeway(I-94) awhile back and there were construction barrels on the left side of the road. my wife handed something to me right as the car in front of me swerved to the right. i was lined up with a barrel(4 feet into the lane, and right in front of my face) and barely could move in time. The main body of the car was unharmed, but i barely clipped the side mirror and it frikken exploded into a million pieces.

so as a brief summary, rear bumper still has a scar, and now side mirror is gone. too many bills to pay on other things so my subie has to wait for a makeover
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:37 AM   #3071
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haven't been over in awhile due to work being impossible to leave; going to try really hard to get out there tonight. i have already spoken to some people about it but wanted to make a public post about my missing side view mirror, i don't really want people asking about it tonight(it makes me sad).

i was driving down the freeway(I-94) awhile back and there were construction barrels on the left side of the road. my wife handed something to me right as the car in front of me swerved to the right. i was lined up with a barrel(4 feet into the lane, and right in front of my face) and barely could move in time. The main body of the car was unharmed, but i barely clipped the side mirror and it frikken exploded into a million pieces.

so as a brief summary, rear bumper still has a scar, and now side mirror is gone. too many bills to pay on other things so my subie has to wait for a makeover
Don't feel bad! Your STI stripped down would still look better than my eclipse.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:07 AM   #3072
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Hey stu do you know if i can fix my broken bolt.

It sounded from your post that the bolt you broke was one of the small ones on the top-hat in the rear,...which poke up through the rear package shelf.

If so,..they are small bolts that press into the top hat. You could find an appropriate size bolt and tack-weld it on.

the torque spec on those by the way is like 18 ft lbs.

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Old 10-06-2008, 09:57 AM   #3073
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What is it guys? $2. ? It's just a gate fee per car that everyone pays.

In case anyone is interested,...I'm selling my APS recirc valve. Bought it new.

I'll have it in my trunk in case anyone is interested. Sells new for $250. I'm thinking I'd like to get $140 for it.
Thanks for the info.

And for anyone THINKING about going beyond Stage II (Protuned): You should pick this valve up. That's a great deal and an equally great valve.

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haha.... I tested my car today again.... I got toasted....
It was an CLK63 AMG... I couldn't nail it too hard (my family was in the car) but I can tell you that thing was fast...
Maybe after some headers and some catless and another session with Tony...
Honestly, dude, your ONLY hope to run that car is to race from a dig (up-to expressway speeds) or do a turbo upgrade. They pull like a freight train up-top and without a bigger snail your car will run out of breath... Either way, it's fun to run those cars. They're pretty damn quick for a land yacht (curb weight is almost 4100 lbs)!
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:37 AM   #3074
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...And for anyone THINKING about going beyond Stage II (Protuned): You should pick this valve up. That's a great deal and an equally great valve...
So what do I gain?
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...Honestly, dude, your ONLY hope to run that car is to race from a dig (up-to expressway speeds) or do a turbo upgrade. They pull like a freight train up-top and without a bigger snail your car will run out of breath... Either way, it's fun to run those cars. They're pretty damn quick for a land yacht (curb weight is almost 4100 lbs)!
I'm the person who appreciate a great car... so it was fun to tickle him a little and see him going... indeed it is a beautiful 2 door, RWD car!!
right now I'm looking for low end spool more than top end... so will see !!
See you tonight?
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:27 PM   #3075
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So what do I gain?
If/WHEN you upgrade your turbo you'll already have one step out of the way... (unless you plan to "mod" the stock one )

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I'm the person who appreciate a great car... so it was fun to tickle him a little and see him going... indeed it is a beautiful 2 door, RWD car!!
right now I'm looking for low end spool more than top end... so will see !!
I misread that for some reason and was thinking the E63 AMG... Either way, the CLK is still a tick under 2 tons, so it's no lightweight. And yes, it's always from to see a fat kid run... especially if he's blazing fast.

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See you tonight?
Sorry, got out of an exam and needed to come home and do homework... I may head out to the track on Sunday though. You should too.


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