[boondocksaint]

I never liked the Viper.

[jtsherri]

Originally Posted by boondocksaint

I never liked the Viper.

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either... but I gotta give credit to any car that can spank most, if not all of the cars on this board on the track. There's lots of speculation as to whether this thing could knock down the record that the ZR-1 just set on the Nurburgring... so yeah, it's pretty quick - too bad Dodge won't take it to take it to Germany.

[boondocksaint]

The problem with the Viper has always been the ability to properly mate power to ground. They can't usually even do it going straight (read: burnouts). The GT racing series cars were infamous for two snaps: snap oversteer and snapped driveshafts.

It's an engine with wheels. The new ACR, well, maybe they finally fixed those things. But it's too little too late IMO. And I know why they won't take it to Germany. They can't afford it.

[DuckStu]

Originally Posted by jtsherri

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either... but I gotta give credit to any car that can spank most, if not all of the cars on this board on the track. There's lots of speculation as to whether this thing could knock down the record that the ZR-1 just set on the Nurburgring... so yeah, it's pretty quick - too bad Dodge won't take it to take it to Germany.

It probably wouldn't do near as well as the magazine readers now speculate,....so going there could only hurt it's rep.

I've been on track with a couple Viper GTS's,...and all were dramatically slower than the 177 hp 1994 BMW 325is I had at the time (with orrigional 150,000 mile suspension and R comps). We're talking me at my first ever track day driving school lapping a Viper GTS every 8 laps at Waterford hills. Real sad.

I almpost bought a 1998 Red GTS the week before I bought the STI. Guy selling it had bought it to road-course,..as did 2 of his friends. One by one he watched them snap oversteer their cars into tire barriers. Hoods were $12,000 a crack,...now more like $15,000. (I paid 20K even for my STI).

He bought a Vette and started racing SCCA. He wa leading the championchip heading into the runofs at Mid Ohio when I spoke to him in late July 2006. So not a total newb.

So maybe with a top professional driver and a team to make setup tweaks they're fast,...but with a really good amature driver they are very slow relative to cars such as a Miata, STI, BMW, etc.


But no doubt tht is a very hot looking car. In Lambo territory even.

[mEnTaL]

Originally Posted by boondocksaint

The problem with the Viper has always been the ability to properly mate power to ground. They can't usually even do it going straight (read: burnouts). The GT racing series cars were infamous for two snaps: snap oversteer and snapped driveshafts.

It's an engine with wheels. The new ACR, well, maybe they finally fixed those things. But it's too little too late IMO. And I know why they won't take it to Germany. They can't afford it.

Even with the 345 Michilen Pilot Sport Cups the ACR has, you still have to be careful. Makes good downforce I hear, especially with the removable front lip on.


So I went to a BBQ yesterday at around 3 and left around 9 and when I start the car and drive off, my boost leak was present again, but only for one boost, every time after that, I think it was holding fine. So thats the theory now, car has to be hot, but cooled down a bit. Just like at the track where I have the issue. Metal is hot, hose or something cools down to create gap till boost warms it up again. or something...

[jtsherri]

You boys should get out and take a ride in an '08. Very different experience, trust me.

Scott: are you gonna be up at the meet tonight? If-so, what time?

[mEnTaL]

Originally Posted by jtsherri

You boys should get out and take a ride in an '08. Very different experience, trust me.

Scott: are you gonna be up at the meet tonight? If-so, what time?

Yeah, I should be, around my usual ~7PM time

[jtsherri]

Originally Posted by mEnTaL

Yeah, I should be, around my usual ~7PM time

Cool deal. Let's take her for a spin after it sits for a few to slightly cool down after your ride over.

[boondocksaint]

Originally Posted by jtsherri

Cool deal. Let's take her for a spin after it sits for a few to slightly cool down after your ride over.

I have a different suggestion. You drive Scott's car and he'll follow you in yours. Feel free to beat on it.

[DuckStu]

Originally Posted by boondocksaint

I have a different suggestion. You drive Scott's car and he'll follow you in yours. Feel free to beat on it.

I vote we all drive it and beat on it. Best hard launch wins.

[jtsherri]

Psh, I'm up for that. GUARANTEED I'll snap and axle before I need to do anything besides replace some runflats...

[turboranger]

Originally Posted by jtsherri

Meet tonight, *****es!

someone seems alil excited lol

[turboranger]

skip it im not gonna ride up, im taking the car instead, its looking like a short burst of rain. oh well!!!

[jtsherri]

Originally Posted by turboranger

skip it im not gonna ride up, im taking the car instead, its looking like a short burst of rain. oh well!!!

You're not a hardcore biker until you say, "**** the rain!"

I saw 2 guys out a few weeks back in what was damn-near the hardest storm we've seen this year and just thought, "yeah, they're effing crazy!" I can definitely respect the hobby though... Those dudes were just wayyy more dedicated than I would be!

[mEnTaL]

oh man, it needs to be like 530 RIGHT NOW!!! I dunno if I can stay awake to work for this afternoon. writing engineering reports FTL