TLP - Update on the car... going back to the STI hospital. #1975 - Page 7

pj21086 · 10-22-2006, 11:34 AM

Oregon is always fun to drive through. Especially with snow, summer tires, and a bunch of semis.

TheLimitedProject · 10-22-2006, 11:38 AM

^^Thanks guys. Looking forward to continuing the project.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirv

Cool journal, that's a hell of a drive home from the dealership. Sleet, rain, snow, 900 + mi. Can't wait to hear updates while you're installing those goodies.

Are those the stock wheels for the ltd, are they an upgrade or is there just one choice?

No, those are the Volks that are my 18" summer setup. The stockers were in getting the winter tires put on (wish I had those on my drive

). Anyway, I'll post more pics tomorrow or Tuesday after the tint is done.

Otter · 10-22-2006, 12:33 PM

So what are your intentions for the car? Daily driver/weekend warrior? Dragging? Auto-X? Street Courses?

amazing build (once again)
great choices on mods. You have clearly been doing your reading.

do you have a history in modding cars?

TheLimitedProject · 10-22-2006, 06:24 PM

This car will primarily be my daily driver. It has to be actually... it's my only car.
Right now, I'm keeping my options open. I've never modded a STI to this point, so I honestly have no idea how it's going to feel/handle. I think after everything is done and I've had enough time to get a feel for its limits and capabilities, I'll know where I want to focus. My guess is Auto-X and the odd track judging by what my mods should do to the car. I may throw in a drag here and there just for ego boosting sessions

And yes, I've spent many hours reading thread after thread, talking to tuners and vendors, and reading many member's journals to try and get the mods that suit my (believed) needs as a driver.

The only other car I've modded was my previous car... Audi A3. I did everything possible to that car minus a turbo upgrade. But, the biggest limitation was it's differential (open), the turbo (tiny K03), and the FWD. I had it up to 300HP at the crank, but it still couldn't compete with a stock STI.
= had to go

My options were a turbo upgrade (big $$ in the Audi world), a LSD, or a complete drivetrain swap into an Audi Quattro/VW 4Motion. That was huge cash though (~$15,000). So, I figured if I could sell the Audi and start where I left off with a stock STI, then times would be good.

And here I am

Otter · 10-22-2006, 07:44 PM

exellent! You are knee deep in a great project. I can't wait to see it all unfold

jutes85 · 10-23-2006, 08:47 PM

You mind posting or PMing me what you paid? I'd like to get a feel for what they are charging for a new STi in Washington State. I'd prefer new over used but depends on the $$ diff.

Great looking Suby, looks like you are not waisting anytime modding it.

TheLimitedProject · 10-23-2006, 09:08 PM

^US$33,500

Convert to CDN$, add 6.1% duty, 6% GST, $206 RIV fee, $100 excise, $150 out-of-prov inspection, $70 vehicle registration + insurance and you're set.

jutes85 · 10-23-2006, 09:22 PM

Wow that is low, I was looking through their website and the lowest is 35k for an 06.

TheLimitedProject · 10-23-2006, 10:39 PM

Yeah, I got a really good deal. I didn't mess around with the salesman -->sales manager --> salesman --> etc etc. I've been through that process too many times in my life, and I won't do it anymore. I went straight to the top right away, gave the manager the info, he made a few calls, and I got the deal I was looking for.

Others have gotten a better deal than I did though... even closer to invoice. None from Washington though. Don't bother with Carter if you want a penny below MSRP on a LTD.

jutes85 · 10-24-2006, 03:41 PM

Nah, I'm gonna stick with the standard STi. Mabye I can talk em down to 30k for a new one. lol.

speedsnice · 10-24-2006, 04:12 PM

Wow the STi ltd. looks great in white. Nice mods enjoy it.

TheLimitedProject · 10-30-2006, 10:05 PM

In keeping with all the 2007 STI content, I did a baseline dyno test today.

This dyno is a heartbreaker, so I was decently happy with the results. My STI tested strong for this dyno.

Something interesting to note is the weird boost curve early in the RPM's. It looks as though the engine pulled timing and cut boost, hence the spike, dip, then gradual build.

This tune =

Anyway, after reading this thread , it's obvious that TopSpeed's Dynajet reads higher than a Mustang Dyno. But I am impressed at the gains made on just a tune on a stock setup. I'm very curious to see what kind of power I'll be putting down in the future with a Stage "3"

Blaine (tuner) and I discussed the upcoming mods (20g, FMIC, Cobb TBE, AP, Pulley, CF DS) and he figures I'll be putting close to 390HP to the wheels. That'll be some impressive gains IMO.

I'm looking forward to the fun in the next couple months.

07LTD433 · 10-31-2006, 03:00 AM

Yeah, those two dyno's sure do measure differently. I was about to mention that thread on NASIOC. That's annoying. I hope there's something I can do about the boost going up, being pulled, then gradually increasing again and still keep the vehicle stock. For now, however, it looks like I'm going to have to resort to Cobb AP2. I love about 90% of the changes Subaru made for 07, but I DO NOT understand this one

TheLimitedProject · 10-31-2006, 06:44 AM

^After looking at the charts, it honestly seems as if the ECU was tuned for 93+ octane.
One interesting thing to note was the A/F ratio when doing two different techniques for the pull:
Pull #1: The car was taken to fourth gear, then WOT at 2000RPM. The A/F curve showed a downward sloping trend. Normal.

Pull #2: The other pull shown, the car was taken to fourth gear, taken up to 2350RPM and then went WOT. Look at the curve for that. Even while boosting to almost 13PSI, the A/F ratio remained at ~14 until 3850RPM came around.

That's where a protune will come in. There's no need for that ratio at that point in the curve. Just interesting to see what the car's doing. My 2 cents. The A/F ratio will definitely be tweaked, as will that weird boost yo-yo early in the pull.

GEELAK900 · 11-01-2006, 09:12 AM

Nice baseline for sure! I'm looking forward to seeing the mods come together. Don't forget about me on the next dyno day

10-22-2006, 11:34 AM	#91
pj21086 Senior STI Driver Car: 05 WRB STi & 07 AW 3 Fav Mod: Invidia G200 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 337 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Oregon is always fun to drive through. Especially with snow, summer tires, and a bunch of semis. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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10-22-2006, 12:33 PM	#93
Otter Silver Member Car: 06 STI CGM Fav Mod: Stereo Location: Napa, CA Posts: 606 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (7)	So what are your intentions for the car? Daily driver/weekend warrior? Dragging? Auto-X? Street Courses? amazing build (once again) great choices on mods. You have clearly been doing your reading. do you have a history in modding cars?

10-22-2006, 06:24 PM	#94
TheLimitedProject Spec C Club Car: 07 STI LTD/08 STI Fav Mod: APS/Crawford/Cosworth/Aquamist Location: E-town, AB Posts: 2,380 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	This car will primarily be my daily driver. It has to be actually... it's my only car. Right now, I'm keeping my options open. I've never modded a STI to this point, so I honestly have no idea how it's going to feel/handle. I think after everything is done and I've had enough time to get a feel for its limits and capabilities, I'll know where I want to focus. My guess is Auto-X and the odd track judging by what my mods should do to the car. I may throw in a drag here and there just for ego boosting sessions And yes, I've spent many hours reading thread after thread, talking to tuners and vendors, and reading many member's journals to try and get the mods that suit my (believed) needs as a driver. The only other car I've modded was my previous car... Audi A3. I did everything possible to that car minus a turbo upgrade. But, the biggest limitation was it's differential (open), the turbo (tiny K03), and the FWD. I had it up to 300HP at the crank, but it still couldn't compete with a stock STI. = had to go My options were a turbo upgrade (big $$ in the Audi world), a LSD, or a complete drivetrain swap into an Audi Quattro/VW 4Motion. That was huge cash though (~$15,000). So, I figured if I could sell the Audi and start where I left off with a stock STI, then times would be good. And here I am

10-22-2006, 07:44 PM	#95
Otter Silver Member Car: 06 STI CGM Fav Mod: Stereo Location: Napa, CA Posts: 606 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (7)	exellent! You are knee deep in a great project. I can't wait to see it all unfold

10-23-2006, 08:47 PM	#96
jutes85 Silver Member Car: 2006 OBP STi Fav Mod: Snow Location: Alberta Posts: 1,486 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	You mind posting or PMing me what you paid? I'd like to get a feel for what they are charging for a new STi in Washington State. I'd prefer new over used but depends on the $$ diff. Great looking Suby, looks like you are not waisting anytime modding it.

10-23-2006, 09:08 PM	#97
TheLimitedProject Spec C Club Car: 07 STI LTD/08 STI Fav Mod: APS/Crawford/Cosworth/Aquamist Location: E-town, AB Posts: 2,380 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	^US$33,500 Convert to CDN$, add 6.1% duty, 6% GST, $206 RIV fee, $100 excise, $150 out-of-prov inspection, $70 vehicle registration + insurance and you're set.

10-23-2006, 09:22 PM	#98
jutes85 Silver Member Car: 2006 OBP STi Fav Mod: Snow Location: Alberta Posts: 1,486 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	Wow that is low, I was looking through their website and the lowest is 35k for an 06.

10-23-2006, 10:39 PM	#99
TheLimitedProject Spec C Club Car: 07 STI LTD/08 STI Fav Mod: APS/Crawford/Cosworth/Aquamist Location: E-town, AB Posts: 2,380 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	Yeah, I got a really good deal. I didn't mess around with the salesman -->sales manager --> salesman --> etc etc. I've been through that process too many times in my life, and I won't do it anymore. I went straight to the top right away, gave the manager the info, he made a few calls, and I got the deal I was looking for. Others have gotten a better deal than I did though... even closer to invoice. None from Washington though. Don't bother with Carter if you want a penny below MSRP on a LTD.

10-24-2006, 03:41 PM	#100
jutes85 Silver Member Car: 2006 OBP STi Fav Mod: Snow Location: Alberta Posts: 1,486 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	Nah, I'm gonna stick with the standard STi. Mabye I can talk em down to 30k for a new one. lol.

10-24-2006, 04:12 PM	#101
speedsnice Spec C Club Car: 2005 Silver WRX STi Location: Bronx, N.Y. Posts: 1,147 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (1)	Wow the STi ltd. looks great in white. Nice mods enjoy it.

10-30-2006, 10:05 PM	#102
TheLimitedProject Spec C Club Car: 07 STI LTD/08 STI Fav Mod: APS/Crawford/Cosworth/Aquamist Location: E-town, AB Posts: 2,380 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	In keeping with all the 2007 STI content, I did a baseline dyno test today. This dyno is a heartbreaker, so I was decently happy with the results. My STI tested strong for this dyno. Something interesting to note is the weird boost curve early in the RPM's. It looks as though the engine pulled timing and cut boost, hence the spike, dip, then gradual build. This tune = Anyway, after reading this thread , it's obvious that TopSpeed's Dynajet reads higher than a Mustang Dyno. But I am impressed at the gains made on just a tune on a stock setup. I'm very curious to see what kind of power I'll be putting down in the future with a Stage "3" Blaine (tuner) and I discussed the upcoming mods (20g, FMIC, Cobb TBE, AP, Pulley, CF DS) and he figures I'll be putting close to 390HP to the wheels. That'll be some impressive gains IMO. I'm looking forward to the fun in the next couple months.

10-31-2006, 03:00 AM	#103
07LTD433 Junior STI Driver Car: 07 UGM STI Limited Fav Mod: I keyed my own car Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 166 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah, those two dyno's sure do measure differently. I was about to mention that thread on NASIOC. That's annoying. I hope there's something I can do about the boost going up, being pulled, then gradually increasing again and still keep the vehicle stock. For now, however, it looks like I'm going to have to resort to Cobb AP2. I love about 90% of the changes Subaru made for 07, but I DO NOT understand this one

10-31-2006, 06:44 AM	#104
TheLimitedProject Spec C Club Car: 07 STI LTD/08 STI Fav Mod: APS/Crawford/Cosworth/Aquamist Location: E-town, AB Posts: 2,380 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	^After looking at the charts, it honestly seems as if the ECU was tuned for 93+ octane. One interesting thing to note was the A/F ratio when doing two different techniques for the pull: Pull #1: The car was taken to fourth gear, then WOT at 2000RPM. The A/F curve showed a downward sloping trend. Normal. Pull #2: The other pull shown, the car was taken to fourth gear, taken up to 2350RPM and then went WOT. Look at the curve for that. Even while boosting to almost 13PSI, the A/F ratio remained at ~14 until 3850RPM came around. That's where a protune will come in. There's no need for that ratio at that point in the curve. Just interesting to see what the car's doing. My 2 cents. The A/F ratio will definitely be tweaked, as will that weird boost yo-yo early in the pull.