Chris05STi's 2005 OBP STi Journal (Black Betty) Full-Race Goodies Ordered!!! - Page 73

Chris05STi · 01-11-2007, 04:04 PM

Oh yah.....This came in yesterday....we will have a long journey on this...no plans to put this fully built in yet...but I will work on it slowly

....not bad eh? I can say that I have 2 STi Engines....well not yet....I have one and Ian has one for the moment ahahhaa. Need to def do some homework to figure out what mods and such....gonna be a long time!

uncle lewie · 01-11-2007, 05:10 PM

What was it out of a totaled STi?? How many miles on it??

Chris05STi · 01-11-2007, 05:29 PM

Nope...kid didn't check his oil or something and needed an new engine I guess.....don't know the whole scoop though. I think it may have 60,xxx miles on it....dunno either.

nice-rice · 01-11-2007, 05:43 PM

Nice find, hopefully that kid learned his lesson. For the STi's sake. Good luck with the engine build up.

JJ18Sniper · 01-11-2007, 07:43 PM

Would you actually feel comfortable using it if it was not given oil and 60k old? Or is replacing the internals enough to fix the block?

uncle lewie · 01-11-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ18Sniper

Would you actually feel comfortable using it if it was not given oil and 60k old? Or is replacing the internals enough to fix the block?

You can get the block x ray'd, see if its got any cracks in it. However, if the engine was starved of oil, the pistons definetely were knocking around and the engine probably over heated. So, I do agree with you on your point. Obviously if the block isn't cracked, you can rebuild it. That means rebuild everything. Could also get the block to rev higher and build it to your own specs.

Chris05STi · 01-12-2007, 03:43 AM

I don't know the full story....other than hey...you want this longblock we got? So I am going to send it out to get inspected, and ready for a stroker kit.....get the whole block machined and etc. Still have a lot of research to do!

sti gsxr 1235 · 01-12-2007, 12:13 PM

Have fun with the engine! LOL

Chris05STi · 01-12-2007, 01:42 PM

Thanks bro.....I am looking at a Crower Stroker kit....hmmmm 2.7L, man I gotta talk to some people who already built engines....BRUCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RacerXS · 01-12-2007, 07:31 PM

Sell the heads & buy a built short block.

JJ18Sniper · 01-13-2007, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerXS

Sell the heads & buy a built short block.

Cheaper or more expensive route?

RacerXS · 01-14-2007, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ18Sniper

Cheaper or more expensive route?

He can use the heads he has on his car, all that Chris needs is a short block with forged internals.
The heads that are on that block (if they are in good shape) are in pretty high demand and can yield $1000-$1500. He could probably sell the block for a couple hunge too.

You can buy a bare block & STi crank for around $1300-, and some forged rods & pistons $?? (depends what he gets).....and have Ian assemble it.
There will be other costs involved like gaskets, bearings & such too.

This would be the best solution IMO. To go thru all the trouble and use a block from an oil starved motor does not make sense to me.

I found a brand new bare block for $500- just by luck, and Rich from Precision tuning gave me an STi crank he happened to have and is just charging me for machining it (very cool). Then he is assembling it with forged pistons & rods. After all is said & done with installing etc., it is still costing me north of 5K even with the good deals.

Chris05STi · 01-14-2007, 07:01 AM

Al, thanks for ordering the M15 for me...I will give you the money when I meet with you this month.

As for the block, the block is in very good condition, and the heads, well who really knows about them. My plans are this: Strip the engine down to nothing, clean and degrease it, and send the block to a machine shop where they are qualified for installing Darton Sleeves....they will also inspect and make sure the block is perfect. They will also machine the block so it can be ready for a Crower 2.7L Stroker kit. I am still researching, but Ian says theres a place around here that installs Darton Sleeves, and can machine the block. Either them or send it to AR Fab or something. Basically once the block is inspected, machined ready for a 2.7L Stroker kit, all me and Ian have to do is just install the stroker kit, and then figure out some work to have done to the heads. Add in a nice fuel system, and maybe do something with the manifold and call it a day. Ian did build race engines in New Zealand.

sti gsxr 1235 · 01-14-2007, 07:45 AM

i will take the block off your hands for you when your done with it!

Evil XT · 01-26-2007, 02:40 PM

Sell everything (body kitz, electronic suspensionz, meffff, gaugezz, and every spare part you have) and buy a cosworth engine. Do it once ... Learn from bruce (your buddy), who hasent made a pass in 2-3 years.
Dont mean to sound like an a$$ but if you think about it, im right. Tens of thousands spent on engines that dont work. I dont understand, no matter how many times this stuff has been done and not work, the more it is done...

Im going to have to agree with this dudes skepticism.....

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Originally Posted by JJ18Sniper

Would you actually feel comfortable using it if it was not given oil and 60k old? Or is replacing the internals enough to fix the block?

But you know this is going to be a lesson well learned... And remember its only Nick that is talking... who is usually 99.9% correct.. That .1% might just be good enough for this engine to make 1 quarter mile....

Have a nice day

01-11-2007, 04:04 PM	#1081
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,016 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (20)	Oh yah.....This came in yesterday....we will have a long journey on this...no plans to put this fully built in yet...but I will work on it slowly ....not bad eh? I can say that I have 2 STi Engines....well not yet....I have one and Ian has one for the moment ahahhaa. Need to def do some homework to figure out what mods and such....gonna be a long time! This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

01-11-2007, 05:10 PM	#1082
uncle lewie Spec C Club Car: 06 Aspen White w. Go Fav Mod: teH Muff Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,045 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	What was it out of a totaled STi?? How many miles on it??

01-11-2007, 05:29 PM	#1083
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,016 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (20)	Nope...kid didn't check his oil or something and needed an new engine I guess.....don't know the whole scoop though. I think it may have 60,xxx miles on it....dunno either.

01-11-2007, 05:43 PM	#1084
nice-rice S204 Racer Car: 05 STi Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 4,110 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	Nice find, hopefully that kid learned his lesson. For the STi's sake. Good luck with the engine build up.

01-11-2007, 07:43 PM	#1085
JJ18Sniper Silver Member Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: DB 20G, Diamond Black BBS RE's, S2K retrofit Location: NY Posts: 4,516 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Would you actually feel comfortable using it if it was not given oil and 60k old? Or is replacing the internals enough to fix the block?

01-12-2007, 03:43 AM	#1087
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,016 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (20)	I don't know the full story....other than hey...you want this longblock we got? So I am going to send it out to get inspected, and ready for a stroker kit.....get the whole block machined and etc. Still have a lot of research to do!

01-12-2007, 12:13 PM	#1088
sti gsxr 1235 Spec C Club Car: 05 CGM STi Fav Mod: SUBTLE changes that make a BIG difference! Location: Monmouth County New Jerse Posts: 1,574 Join Date: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	Have fun with the engine! LOL

01-12-2007, 01:42 PM	#1089
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,016 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (20)	Thanks bro.....I am looking at a Crower Stroker kit....hmmmm 2.7L, man I gotta talk to some people who already built engines....BRUCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-12-2007, 07:31 PM	#1090
RacerXS "Formerly Surfa2527" Car: 05' Sti Black Fav Mod: Dyslexia Location: Central, NJ Posts: 3,358 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (13)	Sell the heads & buy a built short block.

01-14-2007, 07:01 AM	#1093
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,016 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (20)	Al, thanks for ordering the M15 for me...I will give you the money when I meet with you this month. As for the block, the block is in very good condition, and the heads, well who really knows about them. My plans are this: Strip the engine down to nothing, clean and degrease it, and send the block to a machine shop where they are qualified for installing Darton Sleeves....they will also inspect and make sure the block is perfect. They will also machine the block so it can be ready for a Crower 2.7L Stroker kit. I am still researching, but Ian says theres a place around here that installs Darton Sleeves, and can machine the block. Either them or send it to AR Fab or something. Basically once the block is inspected, machined ready for a 2.7L Stroker kit, all me and Ian have to do is just install the stroker kit, and then figure out some work to have done to the heads. Add in a nice fuel system, and maybe do something with the manifold and call it a day. Ian did build race engines in New Zealand.

01-14-2007, 07:45 AM	#1094
sti gsxr 1235 Spec C Club Car: 05 CGM STi Fav Mod: SUBTLE changes that make a BIG difference! Location: Monmouth County New Jerse Posts: 1,574 Join Date: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	i will take the block off your hands for you when your done with it!