CUTN EDG: at the midway point of breaking in the motor- the next road trip begins - Page 284

Flycaster · 07-23-2008, 08:18 AM

I'm with spazegun2213 on the issue of starting out on street rubber. A loong time ago (in a universe far, far away), I used to race bimmers. We ran only street Pirelli's for a whole season in local events, then switched to "race rubber" (such as it was back then) and ran the second season. Street tires give you audible feedback from 7/10ths to 10/10ths. Race rubber (even more so today, as I use ultra soft compound slicks on my karts) gives you very little audible feedback, except right as they let go. With race rubber it's all tactile, and if you don't have that fine "edge" feeling quite yet, you're gonna spend time in the weeds, or worse, in a wall.

Develop the "edge" control, then slap on fresh race rubber, and as much of it as you can possibly afford. Man, I gotta tell ya - tires are a bummer. My partner who races an SCCA Vette goes thru the exact same amount of tires we do in karts: at least 1 set of fresh rubber every racing weekend. It adds up very quickly and is far and away the biggest single consumable expense in racing.

meffie · 07-23-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

upstate ny used to be like that until the pukes and bolsheviks from nyc and westchester migrated north.

Yah my dad has lived in Port Jervis for 20 years or so, not really upstate, but close enough and I've watched it all change.

ElementTuning · 07-23-2008, 01:34 PM

Hey guys I apologize for my lack of contributing to this thread but to say I'm busy would be an understatement. The test heads I sent out look great and will be put to the test this weekend at VIR. Of course like anything you don't do yourself you'll get it in double the time quoted....so nothing new here

We'll do a nice proper break in for my new motor and heads running 30 psi and 165 mph on the back straight at VIR.

If I don't run at least a 1:59 this weekend expect to see my intercooler full of grass trying. LOL! If all goes well as I suspect it will, we'll correct the port work the best we can, and have the +1mm larger valves fitted to get Bruce's heads squared away and the project back on track. The rest is really detail work to clean up the engine, fuel system, and ensure the engine bay is put together properly for track use.

Thanks,
Phil

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-23-2008, 07:24 PM

phil left his above report on my voicemail. i came up to post an update but he beat me to it. imagine my surprise when i arrived to find an intelligent discussion on tires lol. the re01rs are exactly what needs to be there.

hilary and i are headed to hawaii on friday on a workation, for me, anyway. we're spending a few days on kaua'i and then we're on oahu for the rest of the trip.

i'm hoping the gt-r is in when i get back. check out top gear's latest gt-r eval: YouTube - 11x05 1/7

meffie · 07-24-2008, 08:56 AM

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by BBC Worldwide Ltd.

Damn youtube!

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-24-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meffie

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by BBC Worldwide Ltd.

Damn youtube!

it keeps getting posted and they keep taking it down.

you can't really blame youtube. theyre under a lot of legal pressure to respect copyrighted materials. if somebody posted protected video of mine, i'd put them through the wringer myself.

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-24-2008, 06:31 PM

part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYMkpQ-KpRk&feature=related

part 2:
YouTube - Nissan R35 GTR [Top Gear - s11 ep05] Part 2

get 'em while you can (isfh)

amg destroyer · 07-24-2008, 06:48 PM

Wow. You will have some fun with that for sure. I can't imagine the excitement you're feeling right now.

STi_1212 · 07-24-2008, 07:12 PM

So bruce tell the truth... you squealing like a school girl with excitement and anticipation yet?

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-24-2008, 07:38 PM

neanderthals don't "do" squeal-like-a-schoolgirl. we're way too homophobic and the brain is too primitive to anticipate beyond a half hour or so.

what was the question?

(icmu)

***solovus*** · 07-24-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

neanderthals don't "do" squeal-like-a-schoolgirl. we're way too homophobic and the brain is too primitive to anticipate beyond a half hour or so.

what was the question?

(icmu)

What he meant to ask was did "You squeal like a baby raptor?"

STi_1212 · 07-25-2008, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

neanderthals don't "do" squeal-like-a-schoolgirl. we're way too homophobic and the brain is too primitive to anticipate beyond a half hour or so.

what was the question?

(icmu)

your gonna have to excuse my ignorance, after all you're the first neanderthal i've spoken to.

boostedrex05 · 07-25-2008, 10:52 AM

I think we've waited long enough for cutn edg to be finished lol I think it's time to change the name of this project to garage queen

lol Just messin bruce but seriously whats taking so long.

caveguru · 07-25-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElementTuning

Hey guys I apologize for my lack of contributing to this thread but to say I'm busy would be an understatement. The test heads I sent out look great and will be put to the test this weekend at VIR. Of course like anything you don't do yourself you'll get it in double the time quoted....so nothing new here

We'll do a nice proper break in for my new motor and heads running 30 psi and 165 mph on the back straight at VIR.

If I don't run at least a 1:59 this weekend expect to see my intercooler full of grass trying. LOL! If all goes well as I suspect it will, we'll correct the port work the best we can, and have the +1mm larger valves fitted to get Bruce's heads squared away and the project back on track. The rest is really detail work to clean up the engine, fuel system, and ensure the engine bay is put together properly for track use.

Thanks,
Phil
Element Tuning

Phil, you better do 1:59 or better- there's a tube frame dodge challenger from the '70's with 700+ hp and poor handling doing 1:57's

. Would hate to be shown up:

YouTube - Dodge Hemi Challenger In-car video at 2007 VIR Gold Cup

Frank

btw, just watched the Top Gear GT-R in england episode. woooohhhhw. I haven't seen Jeremy that excited about a car since ???. When you watch that thing cornering at speed, it really does put a new spin on electronic traction control, doesn't it? Bruce, when will you have that thing at a track near MD? The '08 sti can't hold a candle to what that car can do...Aventinus is kicking in...

boostedrex05 · 07-25-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveguru

Phil, you better do 1:59 or better- there's a tube frame dodge challenger from the '70's with 700+ hp and poor handling doing 1:57's

. Would hate to be shown up:

YouTube - Dodge Hemi Challenger In-car video at 2007 VIR Gold Cup

Frank

btw, just watched the Top Gear GT-R in england episode. woooohhhhw. I haven't seen Jeremy that excited about a car since ???. When you watch that thing cornering at speed, it really does put a new spin on electronic traction control, doesn't it? Bruce, when will you have that thing at a track near MD? The '08 sti can't hold a candle to what that car can do...Aventinus is kicking in...

Nice that challenger is fast man. Stops on a dime and it pull's 1.5G's in the trun's very nice.

Phil I want to see some 1:40's

07-23-2008, 08:18 AM	#4246
Flycaster S204 Racer Posts: 3,008 Join Date: Apr 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! I'm with spazegun2213 on the issue of starting out on street rubber. A loong time ago (in a universe far, far away), I used to race bimmers. We ran only street Pirelli's for a whole season in local events, then switched to "race rubber" (such as it was back then) and ran the second season. Street tires give you audible feedback from 7/10ths to 10/10ths. Race rubber (even more so today, as I use ultra soft compound slicks on my karts) gives you very little audible feedback, except right as they let go. With race rubber it's all tactile, and if you don't have that fine "edge" feeling quite yet, you're gonna spend time in the weeds, or worse, in a wall. Develop the "edge" control, then slap on fresh race rubber, and as much of it as you can possibly afford. Man, I gotta tell ya - tires are a bummer. My partner who races an SCCA Vette goes thru the exact same amount of tires we do in karts: at least 1 set of fresh rubber every racing weekend. It adds up very quickly and is far and away the biggest single consumable expense in racing. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

07-23-2008, 01:34 PM	#4248
ElementTuning Amateur STI Driver Car: Element Time Attack Fav Mod: Hydra EMS Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 33 Join Date: Apr 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! Hey guys I apologize for my lack of contributing to this thread but to say I'm busy would be an understatement. The test heads I sent out look great and will be put to the test this weekend at VIR. Of course like anything you don't do yourself you'll get it in double the time quoted....so nothing new here We'll do a nice proper break in for my new motor and heads running 30 psi and 165 mph on the back straight at VIR. If I don't run at least a 1:59 this weekend expect to see my intercooler full of grass trying. LOL! If all goes well as I suspect it will, we'll correct the port work the best we can, and have the +1mm larger valves fitted to get Bruce's heads squared away and the project back on track. The rest is really detail work to clean up the engine, fuel system, and ensure the engine bay is put together properly for track use. Thanks, Phil Last edited by ElementTuning : 07-29-2008 at 08:09 AM.

07-23-2008, 07:24 PM	#4249
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,842 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! phil left his above report on my voicemail. i came up to post an update but he beat me to it. imagine my surprise when i arrived to find an intelligent discussion on tires lol. the re01rs are exactly what needs to be there. hilary and i are headed to hawaii on friday on a workation, for me, anyway. we're spending a few days on kaua'i and then we're on oahu for the rest of the trip. i'm hoping the gt-r is in when i get back. check out top gear's latest gt-r eval: YouTube - 11x05 1/7

07-24-2008, 08:56 AM	#4250
meffie Grassroots STI Racer Car: 06 STi, Evo X Fav Mod: Dom 3r Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 549 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by BBC Worldwide Ltd. Damn youtube!

07-24-2008, 06:31 PM	#4252
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,842 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYMkpQ-KpRk&feature=related part 2: YouTube - Nissan R35 GTR [Top Gear - s11 ep05] Part 2 get 'em while you can (isfh)

07-24-2008, 06:48 PM	#4253
amg destroyer Iron Fisted Car: '05 STi Fav Mod: Sparco seat Location: OC Posts: 4,163 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! Wow. You will have some fun with that for sure. I can't imagine the excitement you're feeling right now.

07-24-2008, 07:12 PM	#4254
STi_1212 Grassroots STI Racer Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 518 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! So bruce tell the truth... you squealing like a school girl with excitement and anticipation yet?

07-24-2008, 07:38 PM	#4255
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,842 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! neanderthals don't "do" squeal-like-a-schoolgirl. we're way too homophobic and the brain is too primitive to anticipate beyond a half hour or so. what was the question? (icmu)

07-25-2008, 10:52 AM	#4258
boostedrex05 Spec C Club Car: 512whp STi Fav Mod: Junior Tuned Location: 11.60@121 93/meth 1.7 60f Posts: 1,234 Join Date: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: CUTN EDG "retired" "to the track - my NEW '09 GT-R to the street!! I think we've waited long enough for cutn edg to be finished lol I think it's time to change the name of this project to garage queen lol Just messin bruce but seriously whats taking so long.