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Old 06-13-2008, 08:43 AM   #3976
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

I Have 17k on my Element motor, coming up on a year of use(I know I drive alot). I have the GT65 Kit, Cosworth cams, CP pistions, & Element Rods. My Oil pressureis great, and motor is still going strong.


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Old 06-13-2008, 11:32 AM   #3977
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I Have 17k on my Element motor, coming up on a year of use(I know I drive alot). I have the GT65 Kit, Cosworth cams, CP pistions, & Element Rods. My Oil pressureis great, and motor is still going strong.

That is good to hear.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:45 PM   #3978
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

update:

i just got off the phone with phil. the motor is out and the heads are off. we discussed several issues:
  • the stg1 "hand" p&p performed by jeremy is a mess. i had several "issues" with jeremy (which i did not report here) during the build and i was quite vocal about it privately. i have a sick feeling this is the price i've paid for saying something. there is deep gouge in one of the heads, the casting lines are inexplicably still present and the chambers are ported to different sizes. we are sending the heads out to a local machine shop to finish them correctly. if i ever see jeremy, he's going to get a gouge in his ass. he better stay under whatever rock he crawled under after leaving cobb.
  • trey is unable to locate the specs on the motor. he reports that he has the spec sheets for every other motor that went out but mine. jeremy is not returning any calls or emails trey has sent to him to help solve the mystery.
  • while we're at it, we're going to do oversized valves. based on phil's experience, he believes that porting is not as important as installing larger valves to get these heads flowing, so, to the flow bench we go.
  • the fugimoto oil drain is leaking - out with it and in with an oem plug.
  • steve (phil's wrench and a hell of a nice guy) found the the crucial thermostat frozen in the open position just as they are designed to do when they fail. however, that does not help explain why we were seeing higher than usual water temps at summit point. it may just turn out to be that the dr725 is blocking airflow. once we've ruled out everything else, we might have have to figure out something with airflow if that is the case.
  • i was going to have phil send the ic charge pipes to jeremy at crucial for heat dispersal coating but, i am looking at dei reflect-a-gold as an alternative. it's about as good as it gets to keep the charge pipe temps down. Design Engineering, Inc. - Reflect-A-GOLD
  • the 6 puck rps disk is shot. we have about 15k on it, which is about right for a 6 puck. i'm having a fresh disk shipped to element.
  • they just pulled the motor and got down to it and haven't inspected the flywheel thoroughly yet. i'm on standby for a new oem flywheel pending inspection.
that's it for now.

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Old 06-13-2008, 04:04 PM   #3979
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

update: did i ever say, god bless trey cobb?

trey cobb is sending us a set of brand new bare CNC ported heads.

how freaking cool is that.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:06 PM   #3980
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update: did i ever say, god bless trey cobb?

trey cobb is sending us a set of brand new bare CNC ported heads.

how freaking cool is that.
Now that's customer support. Big to Trey. I'm sure Jeremy is too busy riding his bike with no seat to answer any phone calls or emails
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:07 PM   #3981
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: trey cobb to the rescue again - NEW HEADS! (posts 3978 & 79 - last page

Do you think the oil drain is leaking because of increased pressure or is it just a piece of crap
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:13 PM   #3982
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Do you think the oil drain is leaking because of increased pressure or is it just a piece of crap
i think the location is just too exposed.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:15 PM   #3983
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: trey cobb to the rescue again - NEW HEADS! (posts 3978 & 79 - last page

got ya, I was just wondering as I was about to buy one. Once again I learn some good info from Bruce and his beast.
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:40 PM   #3984
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: trey cobb to the rescue again - NEW HEADS! (posts 3978 & 79 - last page

Damn Bruce. The Jeremy thing sucks.

Your experiences are like a roller coaster of pleasure and pain.

Glad your sticking to your guns hard and true.
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:50 PM   #3985
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Damn Bruce. The Jeremy thing sucks.

Your experiences are like a roller coaster of pleasure and pain.

Glad your sticking to your guns hard and true.
...literally lol.

as most of you guys know, i don't respond to every post of encouragement you guys make. it is just me saving bandwidth but it doesn't go unnoticed. so, to horhay, mofo and anyone else i might have missed the last few pages, thanks.
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:56 PM   #3986
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Now that's customer support. Big thumbs up to Trey.
trey is as classy and as standup a guy as any in the business as far as i'm concerned. cobb the company doesn't even have a motor program and still trey is reaching out to help the project. i didn't ask for it nor did i ever expect it. the motor was free in the first place. god bless him.
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:36 PM   #3987
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motor update:

this just in from jeremy at cobb:

I received your cams on Friday, cleaned them this morning and currently installing them.
Visually they look 100%.
After the install I will re-test the leak down with the timing belt installed, and if all is good your engine can ship out tomorrow.

{{{applauding}}}
let's hear it for the next leakdown test, eh?

So was this when the latest drama was initiated? Wow! Just unbeleivable.

Keep up the spirits and good luck! I am totally impressed with Trey Cobb as well. Seems like a real class individual.
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:44 PM   #3988
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: trey cobb to the rescue again - NEW HEADS! (posts 3978 & 79 - last page

Sorry to hear about the heads Bruce. Surely this local shop should make them ship-shape.

About the stat, I'm happy to hear it froze open, I'm running the same one!

As well I'm running the same clutch setup. I had roughly 10k when I last installed my motor and the disk looked awesome. Since then I've put roughly 6k on the new motor and the clutch seems well. I think round two for my clutch will be a ACT Xtreme PP and 4 puck unsprung.

Good luck with all your endeavors! BTW my car has been seeing some progress so look on my journal for some great things to come! Peace!

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Old 06-13-2008, 07:48 PM   #3989
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Sorry to hear about the heads Bruce. Surely this local shop should make them ship-shape.

About the stat, I'm happy to hear it froze open, I'm running the same one!

As well I'm running the same clutch setup. I had roughly 10k when I last installed my motor and the disk looked awesome. Since then I've put roughly 6k on the new motor and the clutch seems well. I think round two for my clutch will be a ACT Xtreme PP and 4 puck unsprung.

Good luck with all your endeavors! BTW my car has been seeing some progress so look out on my journal for some great things to come! Peace!
i'll check it out for sure, bm. here's to progress for both of us (isfh).
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:51 PM   #3990
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cheers!


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