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Old 06-07-2008, 09:55 AM   #3961
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

Bruce does need to finish and get his car on the road before Subaru incorporates all his mods into the stock 2012 STi. Otherwise he will need to change the name of his build! (isfh)


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Old 06-07-2008, 10:41 AM   #3962
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

In all seriousness, this thread has taught me alot about modifying cars. Especially about how far you can go without having some serious testicular fortitude. Good luck getting the car back to 300% (isfh)
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:04 PM   #3963
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Cant wait to see it on the road again. Down time sucks as bad as spending the night in detox
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:54 PM   #3964
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wow, WTF WTF
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:14 PM   #3965
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In all seriousness, this thread has taught me alot about modifying cars...
It's a very, very slippery slope.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:34 PM   #3966
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Bruce does need to finish and get his car on the road before Subaru incorporates all his mods into the stock 2012 STi. Otherwise he will need to change the name of his build! (isfh)
You gotta be kidding. The STi is getting softer, not harder. Bruce need not worry that the factory car will ever be anything like his!
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:42 PM   #3967
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You gotta be kidding. The STi is getting softer, not harder. Bruce need not worry that the factory car will ever be anything like his!
My post was all in good fun (thus the smiley face reference). I have been following his build since the very beginning and he has taken a lot of arrows in his back pushing the limits and learning what can and can't be done. While he may no longer have the biggest baddest build out there, he was definetly one of the first to go all out, and I wish him the best in seeing it to fruition.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:18 PM   #3968
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My post was all in good fun (thus the smiley face reference). I have been following his build since the very beginning and he has taken a lot of arrows in his back
actually, only 3 in the back, two in both arms, 2 in the ass and one skewered the head of my wee wee into my right thigh (that's what happens when you hang to the right)

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pushing the limits and learning what can and can't be done.
...bravely going where no man has gone before...

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While he may no longer have the biggest baddest build out there,
...what...i don't?!

seriously though, anybody can throw a gt4*+ on a motor and produce a bigger whp# than our measley 650, but i can do that, too. we always planned on a 2nd bigger turbo just for the strip; probably next year.

on the other hand, there aren't too many street registered stis with with 550+ everyday whp, a sequential dogbox (first in the u.s. with a kapps sss) and pro level fuel system, brakes and suspension. the only cars with more technology than cutn are all top level pro time attack cars that never see dd duty.

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he was definetly one of the first to go all out, and I wish him the best in seeing it to fruition.
thanks, uber.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:38 PM   #3969
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yea

in the morning i pick up another suby....
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:43 PM   #3970
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yea

in the morning i pick up another suby....
Freaking cool! Outback? (isfh)

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Old 06-09-2008, 08:22 PM   #3971
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seriously though, anybody can throw a gt4*+ on a motor and produce a bigger whp# than our measley 650, but i can do that, too. we always planned on a 2nd bigger turbo just for the strip; probably next year.
Seeing Brewpub's signature gave me an idea to help you keep on top. I vote RB26 DETT engine swap! Can you say 1,000 HP daily driver Subaru?
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:25 PM   #3972
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not enough fuel to drive a 1000hp car... think 12 1200cc injectors....
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:49 PM   #3973
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not enough fuel to drive a 1000hp car... think 12 1200cc injectors....
That and the other 100 things that you need to address when trying to build a 1000 hp car reliably. I guess I have just been infatuated with the stock block strength on the RB26 lately. Full Race did a pretty damn cool Skyline conversion on an s14 that had me thinking about the possibilities. The write up is on their website.
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

First time I've come across this thread.

BAD luck man, gotta admire your attitude though. Keep the dream alive.

I'm in the process of buying a short motor, was going to go for something like the Raw Performance (formerly Axis) stage 2 motor (Product Detail) but having second thoughts now as it sounds like he cross drills the crank?
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:47 AM   #3975
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Default Re: CUTN EDG: oh no!...cross drilled and cranky - out comes the motor

i just read the product detail and it supports what i have heard; that ron is not impressed with the crossdrilling argument that phil makes here from a recent post on nasioc:

Sorry I haven't checked back on this thread until now.

The 08 pump has what I feel is a nicer design than the 12 mm pump and since it tested to flow more volume which is what this project needed we chose this. We shimmed it also just to give it more pressure.

At first it looked like it would work out since oil pressure appeared normal for daily driving. Once the car hit the track and oil temps climbed oil pressure would drop back to about 50 psi according to the customer. While an oil cooler could help with oil viscosity they tend to drop oil pressure so it's a double edged sword.

As for comparing the JDM 2.0 cross drilled crank with an aftermarket cross drilled crank, all I can say to that is the factory does it right and the aftermarket does it wrong. Ultimately though you cannot compare the EJ207s redline to that of the 2.5 motors since the stroke is longer and the bore is bigger on the 2.5. Running a USDM 2.5 STi engine to 8300 rpm is much harder on the parts than doing it on a EJ207 as it has a worse rod angle and the bore is larger requiring more ignition timing.

Since we didn't build this motor I can't blame the low oil pressure 100% on the crank but from the other 6 motors we've pulled cross drilled cranks out of and the 3 other people I know who pulled them, it solved the low oil pressure issue. In the 3 motors where a 12mm pump was used it still was not enough to bring the oil pressure up.

In the end there is nothing wrong with the 10 mm pump and to this day I still use it in my race setup. We've never lost a bearing or had oil pressure issues with the stock or Element built motors so why change what works? 80-90 psi all the way to redline seems to be the magic number for us.

i would discuss it with ron and use your best judgement. good luck with whatevevr you decide!


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