How-To & FAQ/Discussion- Perrin Front license plate delete - Page 2

***Szumita*** · 05-09-2007, 01:45 PM

you would have to drill bigger holes in the plate delete, to get bigger screws to thread in.

**WESTI** · 05-09-2007, 06:41 PM

take the bumper off theN?

***Szumita*** · 05-09-2007, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WESTI

take the bumper off theN?

guess im gonna have to... i really want to avoid it. oh well.

ill just wait a bit.

vetteboi88 · 05-09-2007, 07:31 PM

I'd use the 3m double-sided tape. Should be able to find it at any local autoparts store.

There is no way I would remove the bumper for something like that and Perrin is silly to assume that people would want to do that in order to provide free advertising.

SonicBoom · 05-09-2007, 07:32 PM

I had the same issue... Not the most appealing solution but... Use the screws it came with, and just screw them into the bumper(be very carefull).. Before everyone winces, it worked fine for me and I can live with 2 screw size holes if I ever decide to remove it...

NewShockerGuy · 05-09-2007, 10:51 PM

I have the Auto Speed Performance as well.. came with two self tapping security holes...

I think your looking too much into this as far as attaching it...

All you need are TWO of these:

Get the little tool at home depot or even radio shack.. It's a Security Torx bit.
Total cost will be NO more than $6 and that should include two screws, bit and TAX.

The tool looks like this:

Don't worry about what is HOLDING the bit, as thats the dude's tool all you need is a simple socket screw driver which everyone should own... if you don't own one I'll mail you mine..

Don't worry about the holes that it leaves afterwards because the plate is supposed to cover up the dead spot where you would NORMALLY have a license plate and or license plate bracket + license plate.

See pic of mine for reference: This is an OLD pic but the plate remains the same...

Actually found an OLD picture of my car BEFORE The plate install...
Notice the TWO big donkey holes.... that plate covers those, and no matter what even if removed those hole would always be there... so don't worry about leaving holes as your most likely always going to have the plate on unless you live in a state that requires a front license plate... I live in Virginia, they DO require a front license plate, however I have my car registered in PA... so the nice thing is I don't have to ever have a front plate... nor can I get a ticket for my exhaust, tint..etc..hahaah But that's a WHOLE nother story..lol

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EDIT:
Going crazy with pictures but figured I will get ya as much as possible...

Bits: This is NOT my hand... my hands are 100% cleaner! I don't have dirt under my nails plus my nails are shiny.. not that I am weird or out there, it's just that chics dig guys with nicely groomed hands that are soft... not sasquatch hands that feel like sand paper...

more bits... I guess if you have to have MORE than the other guys....lol

Screws:
Good link!
http://www.tamperproof.com/index.cfm...ction=products

They even have more styles than I knew were possible... I dig the TP3®...Security to the third power. (mainly because it says To the Third power...)

NORMAL Torx security screws:

Snake Eyes:

Standard:

Philips:

Make sure you get the ones above that are POINTY... those are SELF TAPPING. Meaning they are "digging" their way into the material so that no fastner or nut is required on the BACK side of it... MUCH MUCH easier install and LITTERLY takes 20 seconds...

Do NOT get a screw that looks like this:

As SIMILAR as it looks see how the END of the screw is flat.. this requires some type of nut to thread into... This is still a solution but now you have to find the correct nut to go on the back and then you are still cramping you hand or having to remove your bumper...which = Weak Sauce!

Hope all this helped.

-Nigel

***Szumita*** · 05-10-2007, 08:02 AM

good ideas nigel. ill look for those screws.

***Szumita*** · 05-12-2007, 11:11 AM

ok, i got it on EASILY today. i got plastic plugs that fit right into the stock holes. i than screwed the screws that came with the plate, right into the plastic plugs thread. it fits right in, and is very snug.
i got them from the service dpt. at my dealership.
ask for the "plugs that fit into the lisence plate holder if the holes are too big"
they snap right in. just get the right size.

ill go take a picture of them soon, just so you guys know exactly what they look like. i have 2 extras.

kessler89 · 05-12-2007, 01:57 PM

edit, misread the thread

***Szumita*** · 05-13-2007, 12:43 PM

here are the plastic pieces i used that fit right in...

<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3280/dsc01173er5.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

***Szumita*** · 05-13-2007, 12:47 PM

final result

Pastapuck · 06-02-2007, 05:04 PM

Is there anywhere I could order those online?

***VSGTS14*** · 06-02-2007, 05:11 PM

those look like chevy/GM screws right there

Wht06STi · 06-30-2007, 07:37 AM

I did the same.....I received this plate as a gift from my gf. After noticing the holes/screws weren't self-tapping or the backside wasn't accessible to get the nut on the back of the bolt.....I started wondering if I had to remove the front skin......talked with Perrin and they said unfortunately you do......well I found these plastic Bell license plate plugs at AutoZone and they worked perfectly...had to tap a lil first to use the Perrin screws (not self tapping)....but its in there for sure now! I love the plate and the overall outcome.

Just adding in my 2cents.

BP

***Szumita*** · 06-30-2007, 08:29 AM

yep. those are the things to use.

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05-09-2007, 01:45 PM	#16
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05-09-2007, 06:41 PM	#17
WESTI Gold Member Car: 06 WRB STI Fav Mod: HKS CARBON TI Location: Irvine, Ca Posts: 5,226 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? take the bumper off theN?

05-09-2007, 07:31 PM	#19
vetteboi88 Amateur STI Driver Car: STI limited Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 33 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? I'd use the 3m double-sided tape. Should be able to find it at any local autoparts store. There is no way I would remove the bumper for something like that and Perrin is silly to assume that people would want to do that in order to provide free advertising.

05-09-2007, 07:32 PM	#20
SonicBoom Professional STI Racer Car: WRB 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Stage 2 Location: Atlanta Posts: 727 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? I had the same issue... Not the most appealing solution but... Use the screws it came with, and just screw them into the bumper(be very carefull).. Before everyone winces, it worked fine for me and I can live with 2 screw size holes if I ever decide to remove it...

05-09-2007, 10:51 PM	#21
NewShockerGuy The Next Petter Solberg Car: 05' STI Fav Mod: Defi gauges, or TXS TBE or JDM sidemarkers...arg! Location: FairFax VA Posts: 926 Join Date: Nov 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? I have the Auto Speed Performance as well.. came with two self tapping security holes... I think your looking too much into this as far as attaching it... All you need are TWO of these: Get the little tool at home depot or even radio shack.. It's a Security Torx bit. Total cost will be NO more than $6 and that should include two screws, bit and TAX. The tool looks like this: Don't worry about what is HOLDING the bit, as thats the dude's tool all you need is a simple socket screw driver which everyone should own... if you don't own one I'll mail you mine.. Don't worry about the holes that it leaves afterwards because the plate is supposed to cover up the dead spot where you would NORMALLY have a license plate and or license plate bracket + license plate. See pic of mine for reference: This is an OLD pic but the plate remains the same... Actually found an OLD picture of my car BEFORE The plate install... Notice the TWO big donkey holes.... that plate covers those, and no matter what even if removed those hole would always be there... so don't worry about leaving holes as your most likely always going to have the plate on unless you live in a state that requires a front license plate... I live in Virginia, they DO require a front license plate, however I have my car registered in PA... so the nice thing is I don't have to ever have a front plate... nor can I get a ticket for my exhaust, tint..etc..hahaah But that's a WHOLE nother story..lol --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: Going crazy with pictures but figured I will get ya as much as possible... Bits: This is NOT my hand... my hands are 100% cleaner! I don't have dirt under my nails plus my nails are shiny.. not that I am weird or out there, it's just that chics dig guys with nicely groomed hands that are soft... not sasquatch hands that feel like sand paper... more bits... I guess if you have to have MORE than the other guys....lol Screws: Good link! http://www.tamperproof.com/index.cfm...ction=products They even have more styles than I knew were possible... I dig the TP3®...Security to the third power. (mainly because it says To the Third power...) NORMAL Torx security screws: Snake Eyes: Standard: Philips: Make sure you get the ones above that are POINTY... those are SELF TAPPING. Meaning they are "digging" their way into the material so that no fastner or nut is required on the BACK side of it... MUCH MUCH easier install and LITTERLY takes 20 seconds... Do NOT get a screw that looks like this: As SIMILAR as it looks see how the END of the screw is flat.. this requires some type of nut to thread into... This is still a solution but now you have to find the correct nut to go on the back and then you are still cramping you hand or having to remove your bumper...which = Weak Sauce! Hope all this helped. -Nigel Last edited by NewShockerGuy : 05-09-2007 at 11:09 PM.

05-10-2007, 08:02 AM	#22
*Szumita* i eat cones Car: 06 sti - steel gray Fav Mod: catless Location: ma & ri Posts: 5,959 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? good ideas nigel. ill look for those screws. Last edited by Szumita : 05-12-2007 at 11:07 AM.

05-12-2007, 11:11 AM	#23
*Szumita* i eat cones Car: 06 sti - steel gray Fav Mod: catless Location: ma & ri Posts: 5,959 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? ok, i got it on EASILY today. i got plastic plugs that fit right into the stock holes. i than screwed the screws that came with the plate, right into the plastic plugs thread. it fits right in, and is very snug. i got them from the service dpt. at my dealership. ask for the "plugs that fit into the lisence plate holder if the holes are too big" they snap right in. just get the right size. ill go take a picture of them soon, just so you guys know exactly what they look like. i have 2 extras.

05-12-2007, 01:57 PM	#24
kessler89 Spec C Club Car: 06 STi/00 L Fav Mod: trunk monkey Location: Ohio Posts: 1,302 Join Date: May 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: help! perrin front plate delete.. alternate way to install? edit, misread the thread Last edited by kessler89 : 05-13-2007 at 02:35 PM.

05-13-2007, 12:43 PM	#25
*Szumita* i eat cones Car: 06 sti - steel gray Fav Mod: catless Location: ma & ri Posts: 5,959 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Perrin Front license plate delete FAQ & alternate install - solved here are the plastic pieces i used that fit right in... <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3280/dsc01173er5.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

05-13-2007, 12:47 PM	#26
*Szumita* i eat cones Car: 06 sti - steel gray Fav Mod: catless Location: ma & ri Posts: 5,959 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Perrin Front license plate delete FAQ & alternate install - solved final result Last edited by Szumita : 09-05-2007 at 11:42 AM.

06-02-2007, 05:04 PM	#27
Pastapuck Silver Member Car: 2006 WRB/Gold STI Fav Mod: 05 Tails, Protune Location: FL Posts: 1,678 Join Date: May 2005 Trader Rating: (9)	Re: Perrin Front license plate delete FAQ & alternate install - solved Is there anywhere I could order those online?

06-02-2007, 05:11 PM	#28
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 05 WRB STi Fav Mod: fp green Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 9,437 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (8)	Re: Perrin Front license plate delete FAQ & alternate install - solved those look like chevy/GM screws right there

06-30-2007, 07:37 AM	#29
Wht06STi Amateur STI Driver Car: 06 STi Fav Mod: Cobb Stage II Location: TN Posts: 47 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin Front license plate delete FAQ & alternate install - solved I did the same.....I received this plate as a gift from my gf. After noticing the holes/screws weren't self-tapping or the backside wasn't accessible to get the nut on the back of the bolt.....I started wondering if I had to remove the front skin......talked with Perrin and they said unfortunately you do......well I found these plastic Bell license plate plugs at AutoZone and they worked perfectly...had to tap a lil first to use the Perrin screws (not self tapping)....but its in there for sure now! I love the plate and the overall outcome. Just adding in my 2cents. BP

06-30-2007, 08:29 AM	#30
*Szumita* i eat cones Car: 06 sti - steel gray Fav Mod: catless Location: ma & ri Posts: 5,959 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Perrin Front license plate delete FAQ & alternate install - solved yep. those are the things to use. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.