DIY: How to bleed STI Brembo brakes - Page 4

AndrewSS · 03-08-2006, 07:29 PM

I think I need to change brake fluids again, I am not sure if I wanna DIY it, how many hours of labor should someone charge for a job like this, maybe I will have the dealer do it for me, do you guys think thats a good idea? Or maybe im being a baby, lol.

I am running about 6month old ate super blue fluid (1 trackday on it, and about 4 or 5 autox events) and I will prob switcht to the ate equivilant (the gold stuff though)

well thanks for the help!

SpYdEr2723 · 04-27-2006, 10:50 AM

Just one quick question on the bleeding order. Does right mean passenger side or driver side?

Mykl · 05-01-2006, 06:07 PM

I don't understand what's so difficult or time consuming. It takes me all of 15 minutes to completely flush the fluid out of my car. I use speed bleeders and the brake line attachment hose from a MityVac and dump it to some random container. The MityVac hose is nice because you don't have to have your hands on it to ensure that all the fluid goes through the hose.

Just hook it all up and pump the brake pedal. Easy and fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undepelo

Bad things about the speed bleeders is the tread sealant gets hard and in one or two bleeds you'll start to get air through the treads.

Scroll to the bottom of the page, you can buy sealant.

http://speedbleeder.zoovy.com/

It still takes less time to remove each bleeder valve to apply a new coat of sealant than it does to use the MityVac technique described in this thread.

The MityVac is a very quick way of doing it if you have a friend handy. Open the valve and just start pumping to flush it all out and get new fluid in. When you want to ensure all the air is out of the lines get your friend in the car for a few pumps using the traditional bleeding method.

AndrewSS · 05-03-2006, 07:37 PM

thanks Rev, what a great write up... it sure helped me for my bleed today!

Chris05STi · 05-04-2006, 04:54 AM

Great writeup....very good to have when doing this!

Rev · 05-04-2006, 08:30 AM

Glad to hear it help.

It's a piece of cake!

**2blue4usti** · 05-04-2006, 02:26 PM

I ended up with one of these from a Snap-on coupon I had. This works great for bleeding and exchanging fluid. Takes about 25 minutes on Brembo's and its a one person job.
Manual master cylinder refill.....don't need that add'l master cylinder refiller!

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

InfamousDX · 05-07-2006, 08:49 PM

Great write-up. This will def. help. Does it matter that I have sti brembos up front and 06 wrx 2 pots in the rear? I would probably still follow the same order.

And what does "air bleed" exactly mean? Same process but just to get the air bubbles out?

AndrewSS · 05-25-2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascelon

I was in the midst of writing a DIY up when I stumbled upon this thread. I suppose Im a week late

When I bled this week, the pedal feeling is there, there is just a small distance of travel where there's nothing and then bite. I took the car out, triggered ABS (thought it may be that or prop. valve), and came back. Checked for air in the outer valves, nothing. Pedal still has that small travel. After triggering the ABS it improved, but isnt where I think it should be. Perhaps 85%, rahter than the 100% I want.

This is with new pads and SS lines btw.

I have that same sort of problem today too - I just finished a full flush (flushed out the super blue for the type 200) and the pedal feel is there but the intial pedal feel and travel isnt what I really want it to be... it doesnt seem quite right, well anyway any ideas guys, as to helping this problem?

just, fyi - I accidently let the resevoir run dry on the first caliper - I just refilled and bleed it till all the air passed through, so its all good - could my problem be from that, even though I got the air out of the lines... Anyway, any input would help to solve the pedal feel thing, but I could be making it up in my head but I dunno.

Oh and what exactly do you mean by air bleeding the outer nipple?

Thanks!

Rev · 05-26-2006, 12:29 PM

^Bleed air again with the vacuum pump... that happened to me as well..

NewShockerGuy · 06-10-2006, 06:45 PM

We just installed s/s lines and used ATE super blue and my pedal is mushy...

Actually it almost feels the same as STOCK..

I remember when I first bought my sti, the brake pedal was EXTREMELY difficult to push down and it felt like a brick...I want that feeling back...
Just as stated above my pedal has travel and then it start to grip.

But I was expecting to see night and day difference with the pedal as far as the mushiness that it was to a REALLY firm feel...

Not really the case.. And, there are no leaks, or AIR in the lines, we checked this twice.

Edit: And yes, this was extremely easy, took me a while because it was my first time, but with the help of others and the correct tools it really made it easy!

-Nigel

azndc5er · 07-25-2006, 05:22 PM

So I messed up. I knew I should have read this again.

Today I went to gravity bleed the outside calipers to get some of the air out, the brakes felt mushy after the track day last friday. I should clarify that I bled the brakes about a month ago, in the right sequence.

This time, being in a hurry, I thought I remembered and bled Left Front -> Right Rear -> Right front -> left rear.

What should I do now? Rebleed? I refilled my reservoir after bleeding. The car should be OK to drive to work tomorrow correct?

**GTWORX.com** · 07-26-2006, 07:17 AM

How does the pedal feel? If it's spongy, definitely rebleed as soon as you have a chance. If not, you should be ok.

-Dan

azndc5er · 07-26-2006, 07:34 AM

I'm at work now, pedal feels harder. Not rock hard but the bite is better than before.

javid · 07-26-2006, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewShockerGuy

We just installed s/s lines and used ATE super blue and my pedal is mushy...

Actually it almost feels the same as STOCK..

I remember when I first bought my sti, the brake pedal was EXTREMELY difficult to push down and it felt like a brick...I want that feeling back...
Just as stated above my pedal has travel and then it start to grip.

But I was expecting to see night and day difference with the pedal as far as the mushiness that it was to a REALLY firm feel...

Not really the case.. And, there are no leaks, or AIR in the lines, we checked this twice.

Edit: And yes, this was extremely easy, took me a while because it was my first time, but with the help of others and the correct tools it really made it easy!

-Nigel

Fuild and lines won't really make the pedal firmer, provided it was properly bled before and after you swapped. The line are more of a safety measure and the fuild will just withstand more heat / abuse on track.

I would try adjusting all the slack out of your brake pedal from under the dash.

03-08-2006, 07:29 PM	#46
AndrewSS S204 Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: RCE T2 Coilovers Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,608 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (21)	I think I need to change brake fluids again, I am not sure if I wanna DIY it, how many hours of labor should someone charge for a job like this, maybe I will have the dealer do it for me, do you guys think thats a good idea? Or maybe im being a baby, lol. I am running about 6month old ate super blue fluid (1 trackday on it, and about 4 or 5 autox events) and I will prob switcht to the ate equivilant (the gold stuff though) well thanks for the help! This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

04-27-2006, 10:50 AM	#47
SpYdEr2723 STI Driver Car: 04 WRX STi WRB/Gold Fav Mod: Race Seats Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 243 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	Just one quick question on the bleeding order. Does right mean passenger side or driver side?

05-03-2006, 07:37 PM	#49
AndrewSS S204 Racer Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: RCE T2 Coilovers Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,608 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (21)	thanks Rev, what a great write up... it sure helped me for my bleed today!

05-04-2006, 04:54 AM	#50
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,009 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (20)	Great writeup....very good to have when doing this!

05-04-2006, 08:30 AM	#51
Rev STI Guru Car: 06 V70R Location: Hoffman Estates, IL Posts: 5,544 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	Glad to hear it help. It's a piece of cake!

05-04-2006, 02:26 PM	#52
2blue4usti Gold Member Car: 04 WRB STi - 07 Blue Fav Mod: TIC Click Kit & Cobb SS, RCE Springs and Plates w/Cobb Stg2 Protuned Location: MI Posts: 1,088 Join Date: May 2003 Trader Rating: (3)	I ended up with one of these from a Snap-on coupon I had. This works great for bleeding and exchanging fluid. Takes about 25 minutes on Brembo's and its a one person job. Manual master cylinder refill.....don't need that add'l master cylinder refiller! http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

05-07-2006, 08:49 PM	#53
InfamousDX STI Driver Car: 03 Subaru WRX Location: Bergen NJ Posts: 216 Join Date: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Great write-up. This will def. help. Does it matter that I have sti brembos up front and 06 wrx 2 pots in the rear? I would probably still follow the same order. And what does "air bleed" exactly mean? Same process but just to get the air bubbles out?

05-26-2006, 12:29 PM	#55
Rev STI Guru Car: 06 V70R Location: Hoffman Estates, IL Posts: 5,544 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	^Bleed air again with the vacuum pump... that happened to me as well..

06-10-2006, 06:45 PM	#56
NewShockerGuy The Next Petter Solberg Car: 05' STI Fav Mod: Defi gauges, or TXS TBE or JDM sidemarkers...arg! Location: FairFax VA Posts: 928 Join Date: Nov 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	We just installed s/s lines and used ATE super blue and my pedal is mushy... Actually it almost feels the same as STOCK.. I remember when I first bought my sti, the brake pedal was EXTREMELY difficult to push down and it felt like a brick...I want that feeling back... Just as stated above my pedal has travel and then it start to grip. But I was expecting to see night and day difference with the pedal as far as the mushiness that it was to a REALLY firm feel... Not really the case.. And, there are no leaks, or AIR in the lines, we checked this twice. Edit: And yes, this was extremely easy, took me a while because it was my first time, but with the help of others and the correct tools it really made it easy! -Nigel

07-25-2006, 05:22 PM	#57
azndc5er Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 169 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	So I messed up. I knew I should have read this again. Today I went to gravity bleed the outside calipers to get some of the air out, the brakes felt mushy after the track day last friday. I should clarify that I bled the brakes about a month ago, in the right sequence. This time, being in a hurry, I thought I remembered and bled Left Front -> Right Rear -> Right front -> left rear. What should I do now? Rebleed? I refilled my reservoir after bleeding. The car should be OK to drive to work tomorrow correct?

07-26-2006, 07:17 AM	#58
GTWORX.com Authorized Vendor Car: 06 B-SPEC Legacy wit Fav Mod: AP Pedals and Motons Location: SEE the NEW SITE www.GTWO Posts: 1,093 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	How does the pedal feel? If it's spongy, definitely rebleed as soon as you have a chance. If not, you should be ok. -Dan

07-26-2006, 07:34 AM	#59
azndc5er Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 169 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm at work now, pedal feels harder. Not rock hard but the bite is better than before.