Bring your HID wisdom.

ooWRX_STioo · 06-04-2008, 08:28 AM

Ive done a bit of research and now only more confused then when i started.
I want to get a HID kit for my car(2004 STi). Now apperently STi's come stock with HID's... but i want the bright white/blue light.

Do i need a full HID with wire harness', ballast and new bulbs...

or

Do i just need replacement bulbs...

If some STi's came with HID's and other didnt, how do i check what my car is equipped with.

How can i find out what kind of bulb i need...

T_A_C_H · 06-04-2008, 09:00 AM

Hey, all you need to do is get a bulb. You currently have 4300K on your car right now. If you want a bright white/blue color you will need the 6000K range no more no less. Your bulbs are D2R i believe.

ooWRX_STioo · 06-04-2008, 09:10 AM

Does anyone know where i can check what kind of bulbs i need (04 STi)...

I know its on the Sylvania site somewhere...

karleric · 06-04-2008, 09:12 AM

Cars that come stock with HIDs will have the capability to replace their D2S bulbs (if your car has a projector) or D2R bulbs if your car uses a reflector. Users can vary the color by going to different temperature bulbs with varying K (Kelvin) values. Keep in mind that whiter light will have brighter output and bluer lights will be less brighter (this is different than the color temperature).

If your car did not come with HIDs, then you will need the whole kit (ballast/ignitor, wiring harness & appropriate bulbs for lamp housing).

There are many pros/cons regarding HID conversion kits. I'd say read up online. Beware of cheap kits. Daniel Stern of Daniel Stern lighting is a pretty good resource. He helped me when we upgraded to HIDs on our B5.5 Passat (upgraded to euro OEM HID units).

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Good luck!

ooWRX_STioo · 06-04-2008, 09:13 AM

Thanks so you much Karleric, finally someone was able to clear this up for me.

2004 SUBARU WRX STI

Low beam headlamp
HID-D2R (Us Model)
H1 (Canadian Model)

High beam headlamp
9005
9005SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen
9005ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
9005XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light
9005CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light

Parking light
168
168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Front turn signal
7440

Rear turn signal
992 (7440A)

Tail light
7443

Stop light
7440
7443

High mount stop light
921
921LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Fog/Driving light
H3-55W
H3ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen

License plate
168
168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Back up light
7440

Front sidemarker
168
168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Rear sidemarker
168
168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Ash tray
74

Map light
DE3175

Dome light
DE3175

Trunk/Cargo area
921
921LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Can anyone confirm these findings...

karleric · 06-04-2008, 09:24 AM

If your '04 does indeed come with HIDs, then all you'll need is a pair of D2R bulbs of your temperature choice.

STiKE20 · 06-05-2008, 12:11 AM

Not sure but correct me if i'm wrong. I see he's from Canada and I thought that STi's out of Canada didnt come with HID's thought I saw that somewhere. ask Lightwerkz hes the go to man for your lighting source!

ooWRX_STioo · 06-06-2008, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STiKE20

Not sure but correct me if i'm wrong. I see he's from Canada and I thought that STi's out of Canada didnt come with HID's thought I saw that somewhere. ask Lightwerkz hes the go to man for your lighting source!

I did some more research and your correct. The bulb list above is correct except for the lowbeams. Canadian models dont have HID low beams, its an H1 Halogen around 4000k.

A cheal alternative to HID's in this case will just be a bulb upgrade. For about 45$ you can get H1 6000K bulbs which look quite nice. Tomorrow morning Im going to pick some up, and tomorrow night ill try and get some shots in. Ill post the befores and afters.

B4RSTiwsnc · 07-21-2008, 09:02 AM

are d2r and d2c the same bulb?

ooWRX_STioo · 07-21-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B4RSTiwsnc

are d2r and d2c the same bulb?

im not 100% sure, but i dont think they are.

can anyone confirm, and/or state whats different about them?

T_A_C_H · 07-21-2008, 10:17 AM

Look at post # 4 . D2R is reflective, Which means you dont have a projector in your headlight, D2S means that you have a projector lens and it can shine a beam of light to the road ahead. D2R needs to be reflected off of to shine ahead. Hope this helps.

B4RSTiwsnc · 07-21-2008, 10:18 AM

I just installed them and they fit fine. Only difference was a 3 notches on the ring instead of 2

ilami01 · 07-21-2008, 04:31 PM

ok now tell me how to do it to my 2006, just need the 6000k bulbs?

B4RSTiwsnc · 07-21-2008, 05:23 PM

all you need is d2s bulbs whatever Kelvin temp you want stock is 4300k

jaydow11 · 07-21-2008, 10:19 PM

I put a full HID kit on my wife's Acadia and went with 5000k bulbs. Although they are quite blue and look really nice, I do notice that they produce quite a bit LESS light than a 4300k bulb...

I didn't think that 700k would make that much of a difference but it does...

If I was to do it over again, I would stick with the 4300k bulbs that just about all stock cars with HID's come with.

Cheers,

Jay

06-04-2008, 08:28 AM	#1
ooWRX_STioo Junior STI Driver Car: JBP 2004 STi Fav Mod: Ohlins FPS Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 122 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Bring your HID wisdom. Ive done a bit of research and now only more confused then when i started. I want to get a HID kit for my car(2004 STi). Now apperently STi's come stock with HID's... but i want the bright white/blue light. Do i need a full HID with wire harness', ballast and new bulbs... or Do i just need replacement bulbs... If some STi's came with HID's and other didnt, how do i check what my car is equipped with. How can i find out what kind of bulb i need... This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by ooWRX_STioo : 06-04-2008 at 08:36 AM.

06-04-2008, 09:00 AM	#2
T_A_C_H Amateur STI Driver Car: wtb 07 STI Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: NYC Posts: 26 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. Hey, all you need to do is get a bulb. You currently have 4300K on your car right now. If you want a bright white/blue color you will need the 6000K range no more no less. Your bulbs are D2R i believe.

06-04-2008, 09:10 AM	#3
ooWRX_STioo Junior STI Driver Car: JBP 2004 STi Fav Mod: Ohlins FPS Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 122 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. Does anyone know where i can check what kind of bulbs i need (04 STi)... I know its on the Sylvania site somewhere...

06-04-2008, 09:12 AM	#4
karleric Senior STI Driver Car: '07 Obsidian Black Fav Mod: Stage 2 + Protune Location: 4177898 637995 10S Posts: 397 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. Cars that come stock with HIDs will have the capability to replace their D2S bulbs (if your car has a projector) or D2R bulbs if your car uses a reflector. Users can vary the color by going to different temperature bulbs with varying K (Kelvin) values. Keep in mind that whiter light will have brighter output and bluer lights will be less brighter (this is different than the color temperature). If your car did not come with HIDs, then you will need the whole kit (ballast/ignitor, wiring harness & appropriate bulbs for lamp housing). There are many pros/cons regarding HID conversion kits. I'd say read up online. Beware of cheap kits. Daniel Stern of Daniel Stern lighting is a pretty good resource. He helped me when we upgraded to HIDs on our B5.5 Passat (upgraded to euro OEM HID units). Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply Good luck!

06-04-2008, 09:13 AM	#5
ooWRX_STioo Junior STI Driver Car: JBP 2004 STi Fav Mod: Ohlins FPS Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 122 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. Thanks so you much Karleric, finally someone was able to clear this up for me. 2004 SUBARU WRX STI Low beam headlamp HID-D2R (Us Model) H1 (Canadian Model) High beam headlamp 9005 9005SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen 9005ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen 9005XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light 9005CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light Parking light 168 168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Front turn signal 7440 Rear turn signal 992 (7440A) Tail light 7443 Stop light 7440 7443 High mount stop light 921 921LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Fog/Driving light H3-55W H3ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen License plate 168 168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Back up light 7440 Front sidemarker 168 168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Rear sidemarker 168 168LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Ash tray 74 Map light DE3175 Dome light DE3175 Trunk/Cargo area 921 921LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Can anyone confirm these findings... Last edited by ooWRX_STioo : 06-06-2008 at 04:47 AM.

06-04-2008, 09:24 AM	#6
karleric Senior STI Driver Car: '07 Obsidian Black Fav Mod: Stage 2 + Protune Location: 4177898 637995 10S Posts: 397 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. If your '04 does indeed come with HIDs, then all you'll need is a pair of D2R bulbs of your temperature choice.

06-05-2008, 12:11 AM	#7
STiKE20 Junior STI Driver Car: 05' OBP STi Fav Mod: Stage 2 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 135 Join Date: May 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. Not sure but correct me if i'm wrong. I see he's from Canada and I thought that STi's out of Canada didnt come with HID's thought I saw that somewhere. ask Lightwerkz hes the go to man for your lighting source!

07-21-2008, 09:02 AM	#9
B4RSTiwsnc Spec C Club Car: 04 Aspen White STi Fav Mod: exhaust powered intake Location: Charlotte/Winston Salem, Posts: 1,307 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. are d2r and d2c the same bulb?

07-21-2008, 10:17 AM	#11
T_A_C_H Amateur STI Driver Car: wtb 07 STI Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: NYC Posts: 26 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. Look at post # 4 . D2R is reflective, Which means you dont have a projector in your headlight, D2S means that you have a projector lens and it can shine a beam of light to the road ahead. D2R needs to be reflected off of to shine ahead. Hope this helps.

07-21-2008, 10:18 AM	#12
B4RSTiwsnc Spec C Club Car: 04 Aspen White STi Fav Mod: exhaust powered intake Location: Charlotte/Winston Salem, Posts: 1,307 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. I just installed them and they fit fine. Only difference was a 3 notches on the ring instead of 2

07-21-2008, 04:31 PM	#13
ilami01 Senior STI Driver Car: White 06 STi Fav Mod: Forged Bypass Location: Dallas Posts: 391 Join Date: Feb 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. ok now tell me how to do it to my 2006, just need the 6000k bulbs?

07-21-2008, 05:23 PM	#14
B4RSTiwsnc Spec C Club Car: 04 Aspen White STi Fav Mod: exhaust powered intake Location: Charlotte/Winston Salem, Posts: 1,307 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. all you need is d2s bulbs whatever Kelvin temp you want stock is 4300k

07-21-2008, 10:19 PM	#15
jaydow11 Silver Member Car: 06 STI UGM Fav Mod: (o)(o) Location: Kelowna Posts: 1,118 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bring your HID wisdom. I put a full HID kit on my wife's Acadia and went with 5000k bulbs. Although they are quite blue and look really nice, I do notice that they produce quite a bit LESS light than a 4300k bulb... I didn't think that 700k would make that much of a difference but it does... If I was to do it over again, I would stick with the 4300k bulbs that just about all stock cars with HID's come with. Cheers, Jay This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.