I vote function. Crappy handling is no fun.

GM (looker backer)

 

function but my suspensions done until I change coilovers to something baller.

 

Function function function!!!

Not going to lie though, I think I do the look back every time I get out of the car...

 

1. Ride
2. Handling
3. Looks

Those are my main priorities in order. Hope to be getting some springs soon!

 

im going to echo this, as i agree completely.

my car is a daily driver, so i want it to be comfortable. i also want the handling to be improved, and i do realize im going to sacrifice some comfort for that, and am willing to do that (but, i dont want a bouncy uncomfortable ride). lastly, looks do matter, but from what has been shown about this car's rear suspension, i want a minimal drop as i dont want anything to adversely effect anything out back. slamming the car definately LOOKS better, but is not practical for a daily driven car nor is it beneficial in the handling department.

 

function also!

 

Still comfortable, handles better,
just a hair drop would look nice, but not stuck on the idea that it has to be dropped

 

As i already pre-ordered my set of functional springs, i would have to vouch for the function. Lets put a scenario together. Lets say we have a guy who wants the 20-30mm drop look, but then goes for a drive. I would think that 90% of them will re-sell the springs or get coils so they can get the ride quality back. a ride height drop of 5-15mm would be reasonable for me, as long as ride quality and performace is brought to the table. for me, the goal is to maximize performance, then ride quality and finally ride height. No sense wasting energy on the spring that cannot ride smooth, and keeps up (reasonably) with the coilover guys.

 

I am sending a set to TIC to test and give feedback and we have a local beta tester also. I have to remember who the local was....as in if you are local to us and can come in Monday for install let me know.

443-370-9000 cell.

Myles

 

Ride
Looks
Comfort

I just installed H&R's whiteline bars, rack bushings, -1.5 camber car rides handles like it should of from the factory, I can easily compare the cars handling to a C4S, M-3, NSX, cars that Ive had before my STI.

 

A drop would be nice, but the GR does come somewhat lower than the previous years from the factory. I definitely would like a stiffer spring that handled better though.

 

Myles, I'm pretty sure 99.9% here would chose function over "looks".

 

It's funny....this would seem to be the case but in reality when you drive around your local streets you rarely see STIs with a proper suspension. Yes, occasionally you do see someone with a mild drop and some swaybars peeking out under the car, but most of the time....the car is SLAMMED and has cannonball shooter exhaust out the back scraping the ground.

The dumped look SELLS. It just does. Coming out with a purely functional spring is cutting out a large portion of the market, but that's what we do.

- Andrew

 

in my case... i would say function... but then again i would never buy lowering springs, i would just go for coilovers. i think most people that buy lowering springs do it just to drop the car

 

i dont feel the need to go all out and get a full set of coilovers for a street car. i personally feel its way overkill. a good set of fixed springs and struts that do tighten up the suspension some is all i want.

 

To OP, great write up. Functionality is gonna be the most important. Having a Wife and Kid with another one on the way make dumping the vehicle pretty much out of the question...

While I love the look of a slammed GRB, I want my car to handle like an STi should. 10mm-15mm are gonna be the most I would look for in any spring drop. That's why the STi Pinks are so amazing. You can bet your @$$ that I won't be spending 450+ on flippin' springs though...

 

...That's why the STi Pinks are so amazing. You can bet your @$$ that I won't be spending 450+ on flippin' springs though...

Not only the price, but the pinks are super soft too...

Andy

 

So, when are these going to be available

 

Also, I REALLY hope the springs get rid of some of the squat and dive in my ride.

 

i dont have an 09 GR STI like most of you, but a GR WRX so my wheels are a little smaller. I like function, but i like the lowered look also. Seen the 25mm lower, but that's too low for my taste. I prefer a nice OEM look. I think if a functional kit is released at 5-10mm tho, i'd probably stick with stock (since my GR is just a daily driver).

side note, not a big fan of the OEM bigger gap in front than back. would the new kit(s) resolve this or maintain the same front/rear ratio?

thanks.

 

Usually the lowering spring kits will even out the front to back ratio...

 

Changing the stance in terms of front vs back will change the weight balance of the car if im not mistaken.

 

Weight distribution barely changes if at all....the real thing in changing the rake of the car is the effect on the roll axis. This can be used to an advantage.

- Andrew

 

I would vote for function as well. I'm looking for no more than about 10-12mm drop with rates that are appropriate for the stock dampers and lowering amount.

 

I think that if the drop is reasonable, without compromises to ride/performance, it will get the rep and sell. Theres already lots of options for guys who want to slam the car and ride the bump stops. The key is to give a reasonable drop, and let the reputation take over to handle the guys thinking about slamming the car.

from the GD options, the rep is there, so most will be looking/waiting for the RCE option for the GRB.

To make the functional sell, i think the standard Myles explaination of design details will do the trick.

 

I choose function. The cars do look good dropped an inch but I wouldn't want to sacrifice the comfort since mine is my DD. For the right price, I'd pick up a set of springs that lowered a bit (10-15 mm) and helped with the ride.

 

i am local to you (RCE) and would definitely do a beta of some springs. (if your other guy falls through)

Being one who has had coilovers on 2 of my past cars (5 different suspension setups on 1 in particular), my priorities have definitely gone from looks to performance. I love the look of a lowered car, but if i can't stand to drive it to work everyday, there is no point.

So: 1. handling, 2. stock or very close in comfort, 3. VERY reasonable drop that doesnt effect me getting in my driveway, in my parking garage, or anywhere around town.

the funny thing about coilovers is that even given all that adjustability, once i had found what i liked, they usually stayed that way for the duration. That setting was usually the recommended middle of the road.

oh yeah, just one more add: after the swaybar install i am COMPLETELY happy right now with the stock suspension in regards to comfort and handling. So anything that costs more money would be a tough sell on top of something i am happy with. i think a lotta people feel the same way....

 

I am very excited about these springs. I am also very pleased to see the reaction to function. Hope I didnt piss off any 18 yr olds who drive at the 12 o clock position !! lol.

Availability? Well the engineering side of things is done. The springs work etc. The numbers were crunched for the better part of a year. We matched the rates to the shock dyno's of the stock dampers. This is key. Most dont realize that the stock dampers are GOOD. I will repeat...GOOD valving. What sucks is the soft springs that come on the car. So theory meets real world Monday.

I will go thru the list of people who had interest in the springs. If we put together 15 orders in a short time period, we can deliver on the springs in 4weeks. Why?..well these proto's are not bare metal, they are fully painted with all production details.

Excitement is very high right now. I havent felt this way since we introduced the T2's.

Anyone who is local who is available for Monday install call me on my cell. Free springs if you pay for the install. Our installs are done by Atspeed Motorsports since we are in their building. I also need to be able to drive the car for 48hrs and I would pay for a rental car for you.

Myles

443-370-9000

 

I am very excited about these springs. I am also very pleased to see the reaction to function. Hope I didnt piss off any 18 yr olds who drive at the 12 o clock position !! lol.

go post this same thing on nasioc, then come here and tell us what their response is. something tells me it will be VERY different. :rofl:

 

Can't wait for these.

 

Why did I have to buy the Pinks already....and why can't I be LOCAL to RCE???

Hey RCE, I'm local to TiC...How about this...

I'll give you my Pinks for a set of yours? My Pinks are still in the box, never been installed!!!
Ship your springs to Tic...and I'll get them installed right away.

Come on, have a tester in Ohio...and get Clint and Tonys opinions.

I'm serious.
Let me know.

Matt

 

Matt I would talk to Clint about that as I am already going to send them a set of the springs for review and opinions. That has been in the works for a looong time.

As for the Pinks.....I dont know that I have a need for them te be honest.

Myles