[farmboy]

Originally Posted by RayToday

I should make a clarification. I made an assumption that the car was a North American spec vehicle because they have the engine displacement rated at 2457cc’s.

I thought Subaru only released two STI motors, a 2.0L (1998cc) for Japan and the 2.5L (2457cc) for the rest of the world.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

RayToday,
Thanks for posting the link and the excerpt from the magazine, I enjoyed the video.

I don't know if the 2.0L version of the STi is available in any other markets besides Japan, but I do know that Europe and the Americas all get the 2.5L.

The only way I figured it was the UK spec (besides the fact that they were conducting the test in the UK ) was the numbers they used on the hp and torque. They list the BHP number for the STi in the UK, which is a little more accurate than the SAE HP that the US auto markets use for the specs on vehicles sold here.

[Digitalfiend]

Originally Posted by RayToday

I should make a clarification. I made an assumption that the car was a North American spec vehicle because they have the engine displacement rated at 2457cc’s.

I think you answered your own question...

Originally Posted by RayToday

I thought Subaru only released two STI motors, a 2.0L (1998cc) for Japan and the 2.5L (2457cc) for the rest of the world.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

The UK version also has the 2.5L.

[1day]

Originally Posted by farmboy

Right, despite Jeremy Clarkson lambasting the STi the entire time he drove it.

Although Jeremy Clarkson is very entertaining, he is a bit perplexed and I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Every chance he gets, he expresses his dislike for Americans but:

1. He makes his living on TV (where was it invented?)
2. He makes his living on TV testing automobiles (where was the first production automobile?)
3. He practicaly lives in "blue Jeans" (where again?)
4. And what does he purchase and wait 2 years for (Ford GT?)

[SRH_STi]

^^^ Good one! (or 4)

The story with his GT is hilarious, though... it had SO many electrical problems.

It always surpises me how much they all hate diesel engines.

[farmboy]

Originally Posted by 1day

Although Jeremy Clarkson is very entertaining, he is a bit perplexed and I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

I hope no one takes him seriously. Neither of those three are qualified to evaluate the cars they drive. It is just highly entertaining to watch a bunch of amateur car enthusiasts bicker about cars.

The Stig however is a good tool for measuring the capabilities of the cars tested.

[Laki747]

Originally Posted by Rube1966

I would question the results of any Car Magazine, that can't even get the specs of the car right!!!

08 Sti has 305 HP, not 297 HP.

305bhp is claimed by subaru but i found at many web sites that real power is little less then 300!!! Supersprint also published that real power is 297 and not 305...
Anyway if 297 (or 305) is 0.5sec slower than EVO with 360 that is very good result don't you think!! spend 2-3k$ on STI and you have faster car then FQ360 which is much more expensive than STI...

[farmboy]

Originally Posted by Laki747

305bhp is claimed by subaru but i found at many web sites that real power is little less then 300!!! Supersprint also published that real power is 297 and not 305...
Anyway if 297 (or 305) is 0.5sec slower than EVO with 360 that is very good result don't you think!! spend 2-3k$ on STI and you have faster car then FQ360 which is much more expensive than STI...

We covered that earlier in the thread. The USA spec lists it at 305 hp, not BHP but SAE HP. The UK spec lists it at 295 BHP (or 297 depending on your math).

They are both right, just different forms of measurement. BHP (also called crank horsepower) is more accurate and SAE HP is less accurate but produces a larger number. That is why it is used in USA marketing .

[RayToday]

Bump. I just made some scans. Enjoy the read.

[AndyDuncan]

Originally Posted by 1day

Although Jeremy Clarkson is very entertaining, he is a bit perplexed and I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Every chance he gets, he expresses his dislike for Americans but:

1. He makes his living on TV (where was it invented?)
2. He makes his living on TV testing automobiles (where was the first production automobile?)
3. He practicaly lives in "blue Jeans" (where again?)
4. And what does he purchase and wait 2 years for (Ford GT?)

1: TV has a mottled history, but generally it's considered to be a British invention: History of television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2: Germany. You can credit Olds with the assembly line, or Ford with perfecting it, but it was Benz who first sold a "production" car. Not many, but more than enough to meet the definition of "production":
Automobile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3: Italy. The blue denim material and associated pants far pre-date the United States. Jeans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
4: And he got rid of it, IIRC.

[1day]

Originally Posted by AndyDuncan

1: TV has a mottled history, but generally it's considered to be a British invention: History of television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2: Germany. You can credit Olds with the assembly line, or Ford with perfecting it, but it was Benz who first sold a "production" car. Not many, but more than enough to meet the definition of "production":
Automobile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3: Italy. The blue denim material and associated pants far pre-date the United States. Jeans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
4: And he got rid of it, IIRC.

LOL,
You really have too much time on your hands, but ok.
The fact that "Wikipedia" has an edit button at the top of the page that anyone can use and change the content, really doesn't qualify it for a credible source for anything. But ok, I stand corrected by the "My-Space" generation.