[DarwinsFool]

I'm listening in ^^^

[BANKAI]

Originally Posted by armyssoldierboy

so here is a problem im bound to end up with. i am open sourced and want to add my turbo, ewg, ebcs, cai and tgv's....maybe injectors before i take it to my tuner to save cash on the installs, but i still need to drive to my tuner. any ideas?

Only problem I see for u is ur cai and I injectors.
a.Since ur still using a maf it'll run like crap when u install a bigger one
b. Injectors-ull be running really rich but it should be okay u will def need to get a new set of plugs though... Before the tune.
c. Best option is get a local guy to load a base map for 850cc Inj an install the cai there. Or borrow a cobb ap2 and I got a base map somewhere for those injectors and big maf

[armyssoldierboy]

Originally Posted by BANKAI

Only problem I see for u is ur cai and I injectors.
a.Since ur still using a maf it'll run like crap when u install a bigger one
b. Injectors-ull be running really rich but it should be okay u will def need to get a new set of plugs though... Before the tune.
c. Best option is get a local guy to load a base map for 850cc Inj an install the cai there. Or borrow a cobb ap2 and I got a base map somewhere for those injectors and big maf

hmmm, doesn't aps have a 73mm cai? just wondering since im going with the kstech 73mm instead of 83mm. so those would be my only faults, intake and injectors? why do you say i would need new spark plugs? you dont need to get tuned for them... i have never heard the issue anyway. i thought once someone marries an ap, then it wont work with another vehicle? i may have to ask gabe if he has a base map like this that he can open-souce me.

[BANKAI]

Fouling ur plugs jackass...
Aps has 3 intakes 65 70 80
cobb ap ur wrong FYI

[armyssoldierboy]

Fouling: Fouling occurs when a plug becomes contaminated with fuel, oil, or other contaminates that prevent the plug from generating a spark. Most plugs today are designed to reduce fouling and become self-cleaning when they reach 500 degrees Celsius. However, short trips, low speed driving, improper spark plug heat range (too cold), improper timing, or an oil leak in the combustion chamber can cause a spark plug to become fouled.

so if i don't sell the intake, keep it on there, dont change the injectors, then i could just drive up to kieth and have him install the injectors while i do the intake and that way he could tune the car and the gapping of the plugs. just found this:

Do I need a colder spark plugs? A rule of thumb is one heat range colder for every 75–100hp you increase. In identical spark plug types, the difference from one full heat range to the next is the ability to remove 70°C to 100°C from the combustion chamber. The heat range numbers used by spark plug manufacturers are not universal, so a 10 heat range in Champion is not the same as a 10 heat range in NGK or in Autolite. When making the decision to change the heat range of your plugs, it is a wise idea to make changes in 1 heat range increments, checking all your plugs for suitability during your test. Vehicle modifications during the test phase of your plugs is not recommended as this may skew your results.

THAT sounds like a viable reason to change.

[scby rex]

Id go to the tuner without the intake and injectors installed. Will these be sidefeed injectors? If so it take like 5 min to change them and the intake is about 20min tops if its a cai that fits tight like the aps ones.

You can do that in the parking lot of your tuner. Then you dont need plugs unless you need them, or it wont foul you new ones if you install before the tune.

[armyssoldierboy]

i personally dont know how to install injectors. i have researched on how to do them either...yet. but what u described just seemed like the more logical way to do things. and now that u say the injectors take 5 min? too easy, decision made. ill drop the intake from the for sale thread and just keep it for now. ive had 3-4 people ask for quotes but no buyers so ill just relist it after the tune.

about the plugs, thats what i was saying...idk why steve said i would NEED them. if it aint broke, dont fix it. like i said/copied in my other post, the hp difference would be the only reason to go colder, but wondering if i should BEFORE the tune just so later when i do more changes, ill be at max potential for them already.

[armyssoldierboy]

so apparently my car is acting funny. my wife put my intake back on (well, someone else who knows how to work on cars did) cuz i was going to sell it but decided i needed it for the drive to the tuner and now the car makes a strange noise trying to start.

the battery is at 100%...after the car is on, the gauges are going ape **** and the car revs like she pressed on the gas.

she made a video to show me the behavior. she put a towel to plug the intake elbow and took it out, so no debri go in there. she said she double checked the clamps to make sure everything was tight. it sounds like an air/boost leak to me but im not there to see anything.

[armyssoldierboy]

it turns out they put the filter on the wrong side of the tube. i dont know how they could **** it up. oh well, easy fix.
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[DarwinsFool]

WTf! How in the hell could that happen, lol.