[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

I don't get what you find so funny about what I said. Have you driven both cars? The S2000 probably has the smoothest shifting transmissions ever made. I have driven Ferraris, Porsches, BMWs, ect ect.. and nothing has had the perfect feel of the S2Ks shifter. The STI on the other hand has a nice shifting transmission when you shift it slowly. When you shift quickly it is very notchy and easy to grind. If you don't believe me search around on the net. I'm sure most people who have driven both cars would agree with me.

Edit: if you look at the post above mine it looks like someone who has experience with both cars posted the same opinion as mine when I was typing this post. Are you going to laugh at him too?

So having a "nicer shift" makes it a much better transmission? Obviously you don't drive much. Better doesn't mean smother shifting; you see, I'm not going to laugh at the guy above you because he didn't say "it has a much better transmission." Your definition of a much better transmission is smother shifting. Not a transmission that can handle 600 hp without upgrades and was designed by Porsche.

I can see you were joking now, good one. You meant the s2k has a much smoother transmission not much better transmission.


EDIT: just a quick search turned up consumer reports saying the S2k has transmission problems. It's "much better" huh!

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While it may not be a s2k or STi, I greatly miss the direct feel of the shifter in my Miata. The STi feels 'disconnected', must be how the linkage is done.

Does having better feel make it technically better, no, but it did add to the feel of the car. I love the STi but miss my vert everyday and hope to beable to pick up one for a toy.

[07STILimited]

Originally Posted by chargedvette02

So having a "nicer shift" makes it a much better transmission? Obviously you don't drive much. Better doesn't mean smother shifting; you see, I'm not going to laugh at the guy above you because he didn't say "it has a much better transmission." Your definition of a much better transmission is smother shifting. Not a transmission that can handle 600 hp without upgrades and was designed by Porsche.

I can see you were joking now, good one. You meant the s2k has a much smoother transmission not much better transmission.


EDIT: just a quick search turned up consumer reports saying the S2k has transmission problems. It's "much better" huh!

Yes, having more fluid, smooth, well gated shifts makes it a better transmission. That's not to say that shifting feel is the only aspect of a good transmission, but you are trying to say it doesn't even matter which is absurd. I was not joking and suggesting I was isn't cute or funny as you seem to think it is.

Better is an extremely broad term. Apparently to avoid getting into stupid arguments with brand loyal jack asses I should have been more specific. By better I mean it is much nicer to use. It shifts more quickly, more smoothly, more precisely and is much more difficult to miss a shift with. I doubt you've ever driven an S2000. If you had you'd realize it is in an entirely different league than the STI when it comes to shifting. It's not just me saying this either. Every major review I've read about the S2000 talks about what a great gear box it has. Almost every review I've read on the STI says it has a clunky, notchy transmission.

I would have no reason to say any of this if it weren't true. I drive an STI and I do not own an S2000. I love my STI and think it's one of the best cars on the road. It's better than the S2K in many ways, but if you think it has a nicer gear box than the S2k you are dreaming. A Mexican built Tremec T-56 can take 600 HP too.. so what? It's nothing special to drive with. You also won't find journalist after journalist amazed at how good it is to use. Stop wasting your time with consumer reports. Go drive an S2k and get back to me.

[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

Yes, having more fluid, smooth, well gated shifts makes it a better transmission. That's not to say that shifting feel is the only aspect of a good transmission, but you are trying to say it doesn't even matter which is absurd. I was not joking and suggesting I was isn't cute or funny as you seem to think it is.

Better is an extremely broad term. Apparently to avoid getting into stupid arguments with brand loyal jack asses I should have been more specific. By better I mean it is much nicer to use. It shifts more quickly, more smoothly, more precisely and is much more difficult to miss a shift with. I doubt you've ever driven an S2000. If you had you'd realize it is in an entirely different league than the STI when it comes to shifting. It's not just me saying this either. Every major review I've read about the S2000 talks about what a great gear box it has. Almost every review I've read on the STI says it has a clunky, notchy transmission.

I would have no reason to say any of this if it weren't true. I drive an STI and I do not own an S2000. I love my STI and think it's one of the best cars on the road. It's better than the S2K in many ways, but if you think it has a nicer gear box than the S2k you are dreaming. A Mexican built Tremec T-56 can take 600 HP too.. so what? It's nothing special to drive with. You also won't find journalist after journalist amazed at how good it is to use. Stop wasting your time with consumer reports. Go drive an S2k and get back to me.

You forgot to mention the consumer reports issues.... Typical of a fanboy. BTW if I'm brand loyal to anyone it's Chevy not Subaru but thanks for playing. I'm just stating the facts that you have no clue what you're talking about. Was that 600 hp capable Mexican built transmission designed by Porsche also? Again, I lol at your statement.

Go on the s2k boards and search transmission problems. There are numerous issues with syncros 2-4 in my01-07.... I guess it really is a better transmission, I mean it can't even take the massive hp and tq the s2k is putting to the ground in stock form. Good thing it shifts smooth though.

People on the forums were saying you can't drive it like a race car because you will run into issues with the syncros. They say you need to drive it more like a roadster.... You can't even bang through the gears?!?!?

[07STILimited]

Originally Posted by chargedvette02

You forgot to mention the consumer reports issues.... Typical of a fanboy. BTW if I'm brand loyal to anyone it's Chevy not Subaru but thanks for playing. I'm just stating the facts that you have no clue what you're talking about. Was that 600 hp capable Mexican built transmission designed by Porsche also? Again, I lol at your statement.

Go on the s2k boards and search transmission problems. There are numerous issues with syncros 2-4 in my01-07.... I guess it really is a better transmission, I mean it can't even take the massive hp and tq the s2k is putting to the ground in stock form. Good thing it shifts smooth though.

People on the forums were saying you can't drive it like a race car because you will run into issues with the syncros. They say you need to drive it more like a roadster.... You can't even bang through the gears?!?!?

You seem to think having Porsche involved in a transmission makes it the best transmission possible. Funny that the S2k has a nicer gear box than any Porsche I've ever driven had. That's not to say that Porsches don't have excellent transmissions. I would rank the Cayman S's transmission a close second to the S2k's when it comes to the nicest I've ever shifted. A cable linked transmission never quite feels as precise though. Anyway, I'm done with this. Say what you like, anyone who has actually driven both cars wouldn't be arguing with me. Subaru, Honda and Porsche all make quality, well engineered products. I like all of them equally. Not that you would know anything about quality or good engineering. Your favorite brand is GM I can't think of a less reliable, lower quality, lower resale brand.... maybe Zastava?

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Having owned both i would have to say that the s2k shifter does feel way better than the sti's. Very close and precise vs sti feels loose. I do miss the feeling of being inside an s2k but still wouldn't not give up my sti. Except when the weather is nice in sf where i can still imagine driving with the top down.

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Oh and one last thing... the Zastava (aka Yugo) I mentioned above also has a Porsche designed transmission. It doesn't matter who designs the trans if it is manufactured poorly. Keep that in mind next time you go bragging about your Vette's T-56!

[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

You seem to think having Porsche involved in a transmission makes it the best transmission possible. Funny that the S2k has a nicer gear box than any Porsche I've ever driven had. That's not to say that Porsches don't have excellent transmissions. I would rank the Cayman S's transmission a close second to the S2k's when it comes to the nicest I've ever shifted. A cable linked transmission never quite feels as precise though. Anyway, I'm done with this. Say what you like, anyone who has actually driven both cars wouldn't be arguing with me. Subaru, Honda and Porsche all make quality, well engineered products. I like all of them equally. Not that you would know anything about quality or good engineering. Your favorite brand is GM I can't think of a less reliable, lower quality, lower resale brand.... maybe Zastava?

Actually noob it's Chevy... Not GM (and yes I know Chevy is owned by GM.) I like the Corvette which is made by Chevy, no GM badges on it anywhere. (best bang for the buck on the market btw.) It's funny you mention unreliable, look at consumer reports on the Z06 and then do one on the s2k; "the s2k is a disappointment for Honda concerning reliability." Thats all I need to put about that. I think it's funny as hell you think anything Honda is up with Porsche... It leads me to believe you have never driven a Porsche in your life, let a lone a high end one. ( I mean you're using the Cayman S as an example.)

I can't believe you used the Cayman S as an example, why don't you just use the Boxster, I'm at a loss for words. If your going to use one as an example at least use the GT2. I guess you would have to have real world experience with one though.

[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

Oh and one last thing... the Zastava (aka Yugo) I mentioned above also has a Porsche designed transmission. It doesn't matter who designs the trans if it is manufactured poorly. Keep that in mind next time you go bragging about your Vette's T-56!

You think my Vette had a stock transmission, the only thing stock on that car were the seats and the radio.

I would tell people the car was stock so maybe you read that somewhere and came up with your asinine response.

[07STILimited]

I'm done arguing with some dumb 23 year old kid who can't even handle his oem air filter....

[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

I'm done arguing with some dumb 23 year old kid who can't even handle his oem air filter....

LMAO. Shes also rich b!tch. I'm also pretty sure it would be Lukes' not Luke's.

[07STILimited]

Originally Posted by chargedvette02

LMAO. Shes also rich b!tch.

I didn't say your mom wasn't a good successful whore

[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

I didn't say your mom wasn't a good successful whore

Hey, money is money, I'm 23 living large. I have owned cars you can't even imagine owning and I'm guessing you're in your 30's. Brand new cars in High School and so on. Didn't you see my Girly? Please make another with her in it, if you don't she will feel left out.

[07STILimited]

Originally Posted by chargedvette02

I'm also pretty sure it would be Lukes' not Luke's.

smartest thing you've said all night and still wrong.. your whore mom would be proud

[chargedvette02]

Originally Posted by 07STILimited

smartest thing you've said all night and still wrong.. your whore mom would be proud

It's awesome I know I pushed someone to their breaking point on a forum. HAHAHAHA.