braking question

sti12389 · 05-11-2008, 07:00 PM

hey guys i know this is probably a stupid question but is it ok to apply the brake when the clutch isnt in? and if so how long can i do it for? if i brake with no clutch wont it stall? im confused im pretty new to all the secrets of stick shift. also, is it ok to take my foot off the gas while driving? it feels like the engine is slowing down when i do it...is that gonna damage anything? i know i am a noob but i figured this would be a good place to ask. thank you very much in advance.

-terry

Raceroftomorrow · 05-11-2008, 07:04 PM

ummm, I have no words for this. Im not trying to sound like a jerk, but has anyone taught you how to drive a manual car before?

Peleg · 05-11-2008, 07:15 PM

You can use the brakes whenever you want, the brake system is totally separate from the clutch system.

As far as the clutch, don't rev to 6000 and dump it, don't rest your foot on the clutch when you're not shifting, don't rest your hand on the shifter when you're not shifting.

Using the engine to slow down the car by down shifting is another good thing to do if you're not going too fast.

Pickup a book about driving a manual..........too much to tell..

Brushfire · 05-11-2008, 07:22 PM

If you brake without disengaging the clutch, it won't stall until you get below the idle RPM's. Just disengage the clutch at 1000 RPM while braking.
I've driven clutch vehicles since I could reach the pedals, and only a Browning 13 speed would be tougher to learn than this car.
Practice.

Panebianco · 05-11-2008, 07:29 PM

dude.......

**WESTI** · 05-11-2008, 10:45 PM

you dont own a sti yet do you? if you're learning to drive stick on a sti, id highly suggest that you start saving up for a new clutch now

1loudsti · 05-12-2008, 12:12 AM

completely agree...ive been driving stick since before i had my license and this car still took me a day or 2 to get used to......your best bet is to get some buddies together pool your cash and go buy a clapped out beater civic thats stick and you all can learn on that...it will be much cheaper

sti12389 · 05-12-2008, 09:56 AM

i know what you guys are thinkin...im not THAT much of a noob. i know how to drive stick just fine...the only question that i had is if it is ok to apply the brake when my clutch is not engaged. for instance, when i drive, i always push the clutch in and then brake...i never brake without pushing the clutch in. so is it alright to brake without engaging the clutch? can i just brake without the clutch and then just rev match?

AND if i take my foot off the gas while driving, that will slow my engine down...is that ok? these are the only things im not familiar with...dont worry, i am totally capable of driving my sti. thanks guys

unrequited · 05-12-2008, 10:03 AM

Engine braking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

supermarkus · 05-12-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sti12389

i know what you guys are thinkin...im not THAT much of a noob. i know how to drive stick just fine...the only question that i had is if it is ok to apply the brake when my clutch is not engaged. for instance, when i drive, i always push the clutch in and then brake...i never brake without pushing the clutch in. so is it alright to brake without engaging the clutch? can i just brake without the clutch and then just rev match?

AND if i take my foot off the gas while driving, that will slow my engine down...is that ok? these are the only things im not familiar with...dont worry, i am totally capable of driving my sti. thanks guys

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**boondocksaint** · 05-12-2008, 10:54 AM

You can apply the brake at any time, in any gear, at any RPM over the engine's stall speed, with the clutch in or out.

Engine braking is one technique. Another is simply using the brakes. That's what they're for. Braking. Typically speaking, most people who drive predominantly on the street push both pedals in, clutch and brake, when slowing down to a stop. When you're just trying to scrub speed, these cars are fairly sensitive to throttle inputs. Letting off the gas will usually scrub speed at a satisfactory rate.

Seaches you should do:

engine braking
rev matching
downshifting

05-11-2008, 07:00 PM	#1
sti12389 Amateur STI Driver Car: 2007 wrx sti Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	braking question hey guys i know this is probably a stupid question but is it ok to apply the brake when the clutch isnt in? and if so how long can i do it for? if i brake with no clutch wont it stall? im confused im pretty new to all the secrets of stick shift. also, is it ok to take my foot off the gas while driving? it feels like the engine is slowing down when i do it...is that gonna damage anything? i know i am a noob but i figured this would be a good place to ask. thank you very much in advance. -terry This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-11-2008, 07:04 PM	#2
Raceroftomorrow Junior STI Driver Car: Urban Grey 07 STI Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 195 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: braking question ummm, I have no words for this. Im not trying to sound like a jerk, but has anyone taught you how to drive a manual car before?

05-11-2008, 07:15 PM	#3
Peleg STI Guru Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Whooshing sounds Location: Death Valley Posts: 5,898 Join Date: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (11)	Re: braking question You can use the brakes whenever you want, the brake system is totally separate from the clutch system. As far as the clutch, don't rev to 6000 and dump it, don't rest your foot on the clutch when you're not shifting, don't rest your hand on the shifter when you're not shifting. Using the engine to slow down the car by down shifting is another good thing to do if you're not going too fast. Pickup a book about driving a manual..........too much to tell..

05-11-2008, 07:22 PM	#4
Brushfire Silver Member Car: 06 STI CGM Fav Mod: Line X Location: Saving your house Posts: 82 Join Date: Jun 2007 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: braking question If you brake without disengaging the clutch, it won't stall until you get below the idle RPM's. Just disengage the clutch at 1000 RPM while braking. I've driven clutch vehicles since I could reach the pedals, and only a Browning 13 speed would be tougher to learn than this car. Practice.

05-11-2008, 07:29 PM	#5
Panebianco Amateur STI Driver Car: Blue 07 STi Fav Mod: Catless Location: Flatest state ever Posts: 46 Join Date: Feb 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: braking question dude.......

05-11-2008, 10:45 PM	#6
WESTI Mod Pro Tempore for Premium Members Car: 06 WRB STI Fav Mod: Ricer Flyby Location: Irvine, Ca Posts: 6,184 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (9)	Re: braking question you dont own a sti yet do you? if you're learning to drive stick on a sti, id highly suggest that you start saving up for a new clutch now

05-12-2008, 12:12 AM	#7
1loudsti Silver Member Car: CGM 05 Fav Mod: IAG 38mm EWG Location: racine,wi Posts: 1,109 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: braking question completely agree...ive been driving stick since before i had my license and this car still took me a day or 2 to get used to......your best bet is to get some buddies together pool your cash and go buy a clapped out beater civic thats stick and you all can learn on that...it will be much cheaper

05-12-2008, 09:56 AM	#8
sti12389 Amateur STI Driver Car: 2007 wrx sti Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: braking question i know what you guys are thinkin...im not THAT much of a noob. i know how to drive stick just fine...the only question that i had is if it is ok to apply the brake when my clutch is not engaged. for instance, when i drive, i always push the clutch in and then brake...i never brake without pushing the clutch in. so is it alright to brake without engaging the clutch? can i just brake without the clutch and then just rev match? AND if i take my foot off the gas while driving, that will slow my engine down...is that ok? these are the only things im not familiar with...dont worry, i am totally capable of driving my sti. thanks guys

05-12-2008, 10:03 AM	#9
unrequited Professional STI Racer Car: '06 WRC Blue Fav Mod: Nintendo Decal Posts: 663 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: braking question Engine braking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

05-12-2008, 10:54 AM	#11
boondocksaint Reasonable Car: Boony's Motown STi Fav Mod: correct grammar Location: D3TR01T Posts: 22,580 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: braking question You can apply the brake at any time, in any gear, at any RPM over the engine's stall speed, with the clutch in or out. Engine braking is one technique. Another is simply using the brakes. That's what they're for. Braking. Typically speaking, most people who drive predominantly on the street push both pedals in, clutch and brake, when slowing down to a stop. When you're just trying to scrub speed, these cars are fairly sensitive to throttle inputs. Letting off the gas will usually scrub speed at a satisfactory rate. Seaches you should do: engine braking rev matching downshifting This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.