APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? - Page 2

RacerXS · 10-01-2007, 02:03 PM

Mine is similar, but worse ^^^

Pyrosyrus · 10-01-2007, 02:21 PM

I had same isue. My easy fix was get the uppipe bolt holes at the bottom of uppipe elongated about 1/4 inch so uppipe can rotate up a little more. Cut off bottom of the top support bracket hole that attaches to the tranny. Leave the top part of the bracket untouched just the bottom half is what you need to remove. line up turbo. attach inlet hose and then tighten everything down starting at the top at turbo and then work your way down to the bottom of the uppipe. problem fixed. It still want line up perfect but it will enough to be more in line to where it needs to be.

Stee · 10-01-2007, 02:47 PM

Al,

When the APS unit was introduced, the VERY first thing I noticed was that both ends of it were not exposed aluminum. Having the coating on the areas where the couplers attach is very bad IMO, especially when we're talking pressurized plumbing. When I originally planned on purchasing one a while back when I had my STI, the first thing I was going to do was remove any red coating where the couplers attach.

Hairspray works wonders, and combined with the above may be a solution to your problem.

ReleaseDaKraken · 10-02-2007, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by iTSTi

Does yours look like this??

Yep, mine too. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. But hey, I have some bragging rights since I did the install myself!

RacerXS · 10-02-2007, 02:51 AM

I just got this response from Peter @ APS, he is basically the owner of the company.

What he is saying here is if you do not have either a stock turbo, or an SR56, they will not stand behind their product.

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Originally Posted by Peter@APS;

If the turbo is indeed in the exact factory position then the supplied hose will fit without any problem imo. We supply two hoses in the system, one hose to fit the stock turbo and the other to fit up to the APS SR 56 turbocharger. Outside of that, I really can’t comment on any other turbo fitment.

Sorry, that’s all I can help you with.

Peter

Let it be known.....do not buy this inlet unless you have either the stock turbo or an SR56! Sure wish they would have told me that before I bought it.....

**elirentz** · 10-02-2007, 02:53 AM

After fighting for almost an hour I got mine installed on my 3" sz55 but the motor was out of the car. The problem I have is the TGV is pushing the coupler in ever so slightly in the middle but it isn't nearly as wrinkled or crushed as the pics above. I haven't gotten into boost yet so I hope everything will be ok. I wish I had gone with the smaller turbo inlet and the perrin hose.

***iTSTi*** · 10-02-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RacerXS

I just got this response from Peter @ APS, he is basically the owner of the company.

What he is saying here is if you do not have either a stock turbo, or an SR56, they will not stand behind their product.

Let it be known.....do not buy this inlet unless you have either the stock turbo or an SR56! Sure wish they would have told me that before I bought it.....

Wow. I'm shocked that they actually said that.

What's your next plan!?

WolfPlayer · 10-02-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by iTSTi

Wow. I'm shocked that they actually said that.

What's your next plan!?

I am not shocked at all. The aftermarket turbo choices for our cars are marketed as being able to 'bolt-up' in the stock location and connect to the stock hose with no issues. This is absolutely not the case. There are rather huge problems with the aftermarket turbo choices for stock location (everything from the coolant drain to contacting the transmission). APS designed their inlet to work with a turbo that bolts-up and aligns according to factory specifications. The aftermarket turbos for our cars do not do this properly. Any 2.4" turbo that DOES do it properly will then mate up with the APS pipe. Simple as that. HOWEVER, with all of that said, that still leaves the 3" turbos limited to basically the SR57 unless other 3" turbos are designed according to SR57 specifications. BTW, the SR57 appears to be the SR56 with a 3" inlet.

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***VSGTS14*** · 10-02-2007, 07:58 AM

the fp green is a tight fit also.
i have it t bolted to the turbo, then slid it onto the inlet.
idk how i did it, but i got it to stay and make sure all your bushings etc are stiff so the exhaust/motor doesn't cause it all to flex.
that's why i'm going rotated after school, with big turbos there shouldn't be any bs.

RacerXS · 10-02-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

I am not shocked at all. The aftermarket turbo choices for our cars are marketed as being able to 'bolt-up' in the stock location and connect to the stock hose with no issues. This is absolutely not the case. There are rather huge problems with the aftermarket turbo choices for stock location (everything from the coolant drain to contacting the transmission). APS designed their inlet to work with a turbo that bolts-up and aligns according to factory specifications. The aftermarket turbos for our cars do not do this properly. Any 2.4" turbo that DOES do it properly will then mate up with the APS pipe. Simple as that. HOWEVER, with all of that said, that still leaves the 3" turbos limited to basically the SR57 unless other 3" turbos are designed according to SR57 specifications. BTW, the SR57 appears to be the SR56 with a 3" inlet.

t

I agree, but if thats the case then spell it out very clearly to the customer that this is the situation.

I think it's more than obvious that people are going to use this inlet with other turbos than the stock, or APS units. What percentage of people are using either of these do you think? MAYBE 5-10%?

If your not going to make it clear to the customer, then at least TRY to support the people who gave you money for a product that does not work.

Honestly, a 1" longer coupler would solve the issue on 90% of the cases. It would not be rocket science to produce a longer coupler.

***iTSTi*** · 10-03-2007, 10:13 AM

Have you seen the Gimmick Motorsports Turbo Inlets?? They look pretty similar to the Perrin one, but cheaper. I don't know what the differences are tho. I just saw some pix.

RacerXS · 10-03-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by iTSTi

Have you seen the Gimmick Motorsports Turbo Inlets?? They look pretty similar to the Perrin one, but cheaper. I don't know what the differences are tho. I just saw some pix.

I have heard of them, but don't know how proven they are.

I got an e-mail back from Perrin that confirmed the newest units are now 6 ply instead of 5, and they guarantee it will not collapse. There are also numerous threads on NASIOC from tuners praising the newest inlet. I'm placing an order for one today.

Chris05STi · 10-03-2007, 10:30 AM

The Gimmick one was installed in Bill's car. I helped Kiwi install that onto his car, seemed to work fine with his 2.4" SZ49 Turbo. I will keep this in mind Al whenever mine goes in......the hair spray trick that Dave stated sounds like a really good idea as well.

RacerXS · 10-03-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris05STi

The Gimmick one was installed in Bill's car. I helped Kiwi install that onto his car, seemed to work fine with his 2.4" SZ49 Turbo. I will keep this in mind Al whenever mine goes in......the hair spray trick that Dave stated sounds like a really good idea as well.

Yea, the hair spray is a good idea for ALL vacuum lines as well, along with zip ties. I learned about that 6 months ago after my 999th vacuum hose popped off

JJ18Sniper · 10-04-2007, 12:07 PM

Sorry to hear this Al.... My 3" 20G was a very snug fit, but has not had any issues since the install. I haven't even used a t-bolt clamp yet (just the crap supplied). Truly sucks to hear... hopefully a fluke of some sort that can be corrected

10-01-2007, 02:03 PM	#16
RacerXS S204 Racer Car: 05' Sti Black Fav Mod: Dyslexia Location: Central, NJ Posts: 3,362 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (13)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? Mine is similar, but worse ^^^ This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by RacerXS : 10-02-2007 at 02:32 AM.

10-01-2007, 02:21 PM	#17
Pyrosyrus Amateur STI Driver Posts: 15 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? I had same isue. My easy fix was get the uppipe bolt holes at the bottom of uppipe elongated about 1/4 inch so uppipe can rotate up a little more. Cut off bottom of the top support bracket hole that attaches to the tranny. Leave the top part of the bracket untouched just the bottom half is what you need to remove. line up turbo. attach inlet hose and then tighten everything down starting at the top at turbo and then work your way down to the bottom of the uppipe. problem fixed. It still want line up perfect but it will enough to be more in line to where it needs to be.

10-01-2007, 02:47 PM	#18
Stee Spec C Club Car: 2008 Fitrari Red Fav Mod: Getting 40mpg Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,537 Join Date: Jan 2004 Trader Rating: (8)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? Al, When the APS unit was introduced, the VERY first thing I noticed was that both ends of it were not exposed aluminum. Having the coating on the areas where the couplers attach is very bad IMO, especially when we're talking pressurized plumbing. When I originally planned on purchasing one a while back when I had my STI, the first thing I was going to do was remove any red coating where the couplers attach. Hairspray works wonders, and combined with the above may be a solution to your problem.

10-02-2007, 02:53 AM	#21
elirentz Gold Member Car: 05 STi, 87 325e Fav Mod: ohlins w/RCE springs, sz55 Location: charleston Posts: 564 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? After fighting for almost an hour I got mine installed on my 3" sz55 but the motor was out of the car. The problem I have is the TGV is pushing the coupler in ever so slightly in the middle but it isn't nearly as wrinkled or crushed as the pics above. I haven't gotten into boost yet so I hope everything will be ok. I wish I had gone with the smaller turbo inlet and the perrin hose.

10-02-2007, 07:58 AM	#24
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 08 Chevy 2500HD Fav Mod: a new 08 STi Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 10,008 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (11)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? the fp green is a tight fit also. i have it t bolted to the turbo, then slid it onto the inlet. idk how i did it, but i got it to stay and make sure all your bushings etc are stiff so the exhaust/motor doesn't cause it all to flex. that's why i'm going rotated after school, with big turbos there shouldn't be any bs.

10-03-2007, 10:13 AM	#26
*iTSTi* Platinum Member Car: 2006 Subaru Fav Mod: JDM "Baby In Car" Location: NJ Posts: 873 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? Have you seen the Gimmick Motorsports Turbo Inlets?? They look pretty similar to the Perrin one, but cheaper. I don't know what the differences are tho. I just saw some pix.

10-03-2007, 10:30 AM	#28
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,733 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (27)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? The Gimmick one was installed in Bill's car. I helped Kiwi install that onto his car, seemed to work fine with his 2.4" SZ49 Turbo. I will keep this in mind Al whenever mine goes in......the hair spray trick that Dave stated sounds like a really good idea as well.

10-04-2007, 12:07 PM	#30
JJ18Sniper Silver Member Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: DB 20G, Diamond Black BBS RE's, S2K retrofit Location: NY Posts: 4,594 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: APS inlet issue - Anyone else have this problem? Sorry to hear this Al.... My 3" 20G was a very snug fit, but has not had any issues since the install. I haven't even used a t-bolt clamp yet (just the crap supplied). Truly sucks to hear... hopefully a fluke of some sort that can be corrected This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.