Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC

v8killah91 · 07-27-2007, 10:47 AM

So I'm planning on a turbo upgrade and here are the mods that I'll have once the parts are in (on an '04 STi)

-Helix RR500 turbo (approx. 20g-sized)
-eBay large TMIC
-TurboXS TBE
-Injen CAI
-Deautschwerks 740cc injectors
-Walbro pump
-StaticX Turbo Wrap
-UTEC

Before I take this down to get tuned, is it worth the trouble to get a FMIC? To do this, I'd have to get rid of my CAI, sell my 2 month old TMIC (I wasn't planning on doing the turbo upgrade when I bought this), spend $$$ on a FMIC, cut my bumper up, etc. etc.

I'm from PA and temps don't get extremely hot and with the turbo wrap, I think I would be okay.

What do you guys think? Is it worth it or not?

WRC~06~STi · 07-27-2007, 10:57 AM

well, i think everyone recommends a FMIC with a larger turbo but i am not familiar with the size of that helix so i could not tell you. i would suggest the FMIC from just what everyone has told me about a gt35r soo.... it is up to you but i'm sure you will get your answer shortly. good luck!

mxpop · 07-27-2007, 11:02 AM

dont know about that turbo but have you looked into/considered meth?

07WRBSTI · 07-27-2007, 11:03 AM

That is about a 20g sized turbo so you don't need a FMIC it should help gains a little, but from the tone of your post you don't really want to, I say keep the TMIC. Just try and thermally isolate your turbo and IC.

Tortfeasor STi · 07-27-2007, 11:09 AM

Yes the FMIC is worth it with a big turbo, if you can afford a good fmic setup, you should get it.

amg destroyer · 07-27-2007, 11:11 AM

I'm not familiar with that turbo, but if it really is the equiv. of a 20g, then just stay with the TMIC and add meth injection - it really helps cool the charge. But if it is anything relatively bigger than a 20g, go FMIC.

mxpop · 07-27-2007, 11:16 AM

^ true dat

modaddict · 07-27-2007, 11:23 AM

yes, fmic is worth it.

LilJohn · 07-27-2007, 11:52 AM

the helix RR500 that he is refering to is a 46 Lb compressor, most 20g are around 44 lb and the FP green is 49 lb.

v8killah91 · 07-27-2007, 11:54 AM

What kind of whp/wt gains am I looking at versus a large TMIC?

v8killah91 · 07-27-2007, 11:55 AM

I have, but this is a DD and I'm trying to keep things pretty simple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxpop

dont know about that turbo but have you looked into/considered meth?

v8killah91 · 07-27-2007, 12:19 PM

After seeing this thread, my interest in a FMIC has dropped slightly

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ht=turboxs+sti

npower · 07-27-2007, 12:19 PM

I know on the Dyno my big TMIC could not handle my FP Green at the upper end (on 4th gear pulls, high load), had to switch to FMIC to get the power I wanted.

lokutus1 · 07-27-2007, 12:40 PM

i would stick with the tmic. you might leave a little on the table, but you'll save over $1k and won't have to deal with the hassles of installing a fmic.

v8killah91 · 07-27-2007, 12:41 PM

What was the difference in power from big TMIC to FMIC?

Quote:

Originally Posted by npower

I know on the Dyno my big TMIC could not handle my FP Green at the upper end (on 4th gear pulls, high load), had to switch to FMIC to get the power I wanted.

07-27-2007, 10:47 AM	#1
v8killah91 Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Posts: 159 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC So I'm planning on a turbo upgrade and here are the mods that I'll have once the parts are in (on an '04 STi) -Helix RR500 turbo (approx. 20g-sized) -eBay large TMIC -TurboXS TBE -Injen CAI -Deautschwerks 740cc injectors -Walbro pump -StaticX Turbo Wrap -UTEC Before I take this down to get tuned, is it worth the trouble to get a FMIC? To do this, I'd have to get rid of my CAI, sell my 2 month old TMIC (I wasn't planning on doing the turbo upgrade when I bought this), spend $$$ on a FMIC, cut my bumper up, etc. etc. I'm from PA and temps don't get extremely hot and with the turbo wrap, I think I would be okay. What do you guys think? Is it worth it or not? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by v8killah91 : 07-27-2007 at 11:53 AM.

07-27-2007, 10:57 AM	#2
WRC~06~STi Silver Member Car: 06STi K7GSX-R 600 Fav Mod: Stage 2 Catless!!!!! Location: Western NC Posts: 918 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC well, i think everyone recommends a FMIC with a larger turbo but i am not familiar with the size of that helix so i could not tell you. i would suggest the FMIC from just what everyone has told me about a gt35r soo.... it is up to you but i'm sure you will get your answer shortly. good luck!

07-27-2007, 11:02 AM	#3
mxpop Spec C Club Car: '06 STI Fav Mod: air freshener!!! Location: Santa barbara area Posts: 2,288 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC dont know about that turbo but have you looked into/considered meth?

07-27-2007, 11:03 AM	#4
07WRBSTI Silver Member Car: 07 WRB STI Fav Mod: Logitec G25 & Playseat Location: Indiana Posts: 315 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC That is about a 20g sized turbo so you don't need a FMIC it should help gains a little, but from the tone of your post you don't really want to, I say keep the TMIC. Just try and thermally isolate your turbo and IC.

07-27-2007, 11:09 AM	#5
Tortfeasor STi S204 Racer Car: '08 335xi Coupe Fav Mod: Dinan Reflash Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 3,365 Join Date: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC Yes the FMIC is worth it with a big turbo, if you can afford a good fmic setup, you should get it.

07-27-2007, 11:11 AM	#6
amg destroyer GUNNIN' IT Car: '05 STi Fav Mod: Sparco seat Location: OC Posts: 3,753 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC I'm not familiar with that turbo, but if it really is the equiv. of a 20g, then just stay with the TMIC and add meth injection - it really helps cool the charge. But if it is anything relatively bigger than a 20g, go FMIC.

07-27-2007, 11:16 AM	#7
mxpop Spec C Club Car: '06 STI Fav Mod: air freshener!!! Location: Santa barbara area Posts: 2,288 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC ^ true dat

07-27-2007, 11:23 AM	#8
modaddict Spec C Club Car: 04 Crawford STi Fav Mod: CP35r 440whp Location: pasco, WA Posts: 1,790 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC yes, fmic is worth it.

07-27-2007, 11:52 AM	#9
LilJohn Amateur STI Driver Car: 2004 WRX STi Fav Mod: Enginuity, custom ECU reflash Location: OC, California Posts: 35 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC the helix RR500 that he is refering to is a 46 Lb compressor, most 20g are around 44 lb and the FP green is 49 lb.

07-27-2007, 11:54 AM	#10
v8killah91 Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Posts: 159 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC What kind of whp/wt gains am I looking at versus a large TMIC?

07-27-2007, 12:19 PM	#12
v8killah91 Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Posts: 159 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC After seeing this thread, my interest in a FMIC has dropped slightly http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ht=turboxs+sti

07-27-2007, 12:19 PM	#13
npower Silver Member Car: 07 STI Fav Mod: V1 Location: San Diego Posts: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC I know on the Dyno my big TMIC could not handle my FP Green at the upper end (on 4th gear pulls, high load), had to switch to FMIC to get the power I wanted.

07-27-2007, 12:40 PM	#14
lokutus1 Silver Member Car: 05 WRB WRX STi Fav Mod: FYI, I'm a dude Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 2,327 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Worth the Hassle? TMIC to FMIC i would stick with the tmic. you might leave a little on the table, but you'll save over $1k and won't have to deal with the hassles of installing a fmic.