[LilJohn]

you could keep the top mount and go with some meth/water injection.

another thought is you could go with a air to water intercooler. the actual intercooler can still mount in the same place and just put the radiator up at the front. thoughts, comments, suggestions?

[USAF_STi]

With that turbo I would stick to a big top mount with a meth/water injection combo. My good friend runs a SZ49 on a APS topmount without issue. He did lose about 20WHP on the top end but loves the response of the TMIC. The car still ran a 12.3@112 on 91 pump only.

[v8killah91]

Sorry to revive this old thread, but my question pertains to this.

On my '04 STi, I have the following mods:

-FP 20g 8cm
-eBay TMIC
-Injen CAI
-Deatschwerks 740cc injectors
-NGK one-step colder plugs
-Walbro pump
-TurboXS TBE
-UTEC

I'm thinking of switching to a FMIC, which means I would have to ditch the CAI. Would the gains/safety margin achieved from a FMIC more than justify the removal of the CAI and the utilization of a "hot air" intake in its place?

Thanks.

[modaddict]

NEVER use a shortram period.

you can buy a fmic that will utilize your CAI....or you can do custom piping on that 1 side.

[steelgraySTi06]

Originally Posted by modaddict

NEVER use a shortram period.

you can buy a fmic that will utilize your CAI....or you can do custom piping on that 1 side.

Why don't you like short ram intakes

[modaddict]

Originally Posted by steelgraySTi06

Why don't you like short ram intakes

known, proven and logged to cause ecessive IAT's, detonation, and heatsoak.

any more questions?

[steelgraySTi06]

Originally Posted by modaddict

known, proven and logged to cause ecessive IAT's, detonation, and heatsoak.

any more questions?

uummmm are you really addicted to mods?


Thanks you mentioned it in a few post and I was just curios

[modaddict]

Originally Posted by steelgraySTi06

uummmm are you really addicted to mods?


Thanks you mentioned it in a few post and I was just curios

Have you GONE through my journal in my sig!???????

[STI-LOS]

Originally Posted by v8killah91

Sorry to revive this old thread, but my question pertains to this.

On my '04 STi, I have the following mods:

-FP 20g 8cm
-eBay TMIC
-Injen CAI
-Deatschwerks 740cc injectors
-NGK one-step colder plugs
-Walbro pump
-TurboXS TBE
-UTEC

I'm thinking of switching to a FMIC, which means I would have to ditch the CAI. Would the gains/safety margin achieved from a FMIC more than justify the removal of the CAI and the utilization of a "hot air" intake in its place?

Thanks.

Stick with a TMIC you will love it with that 20G, I think the 20G and a bigger TMIC is a awesome combo your spool up will be insane. I think anything bigger then a 20G and yeah FMIC is the way to go even though I am all about TMIC.. I am running a APS TMIC with a DOM 3.0R but I am gonna run Meth to help.. On a short ram intake yeah man stick with a CAI it really makes the diff like Mod said you can always make it work with a FMIC and if you did run a big maf shorty just make sure you use some heatshielding and stuff. Good luck

[cpunlamd]

1. The OP never mentioned going the METH route. Its not like you can get a fill up at the local gas station. (so that can be a hassle)

2. Everyone agrees that anything larger than the stock turbo is grounds for a FMIC upgrade.

3. Heat soak is inevitable. Just driving my car back from work will heat up my TMIC like a frying pan.

Main point: Its not rocket science to know that sucking in HOT air will kill horsepower. Instead of putting a bandaid over the problem (heat soaked tmic), go with one of the best upgrades on a WRX which is a FMIC.

p.s. You dont need to lose your CAI. Alot of us FMIC equipped WRXs run both the FMIC and CAI combo.

[STI-LOS]

Originally Posted by cpunlamd

1. The OP never mentioned going the METH route. Its not like you can get a fill up at the local gas station. (so that can be a hassle)

2. Everyone agrees that anything larger than the stock turbo is grounds for a FMIC upgrade.

3. Heat soak is inevitable. Just driving my car back from work will heat up my TMIC like a frying pan.

Main point: Its not rocket science to know that sucking in HOT air will kill horsepower. Instead of putting a bandaid over the problem (heat soaked tmic), go with one of the best upgrades on a WRX which is a FMIC.

p.s. You dont need to lose your CAI. Alot of us FMIC equipped WRXs run both the FMIC and CAI combo.

I hear ya and I am not arguing with you but all of your comments are BIG generalizations that aren't really helping the OP.

As for Meth its a suggestion its a great additive whether you run a TMIC or a FMIC. I can go on for days on why Meth is great a good size tank will last you well over a month and its not spraying all the time and it depends on how you have it setup, its not a hassle at all.

Everyone agrees that you have to run a FMIC with anything bigger then a stock Turbo is a huge generalization, I dont agree and there are plenty of other people that dont agree, I would run a 20G with a TMIC over a FMIC any day. This is not a debate cause it doesn't matter you can run a larger TMIC with alot of turbos out there done right you will get a nice quick spooling setup on a DD if your a track car then yeah FMIC is the way to go, sitting in traffic on a 90 degree day yeah its gonna happen ,heat is an issue whether you have a TMIC or a FMIC..

And P.S it depends on what CAI the OP has and what FMIC he wants to get , so before you tell the OP that he is fine and he doesn't have to lose his CAI and he jumps the gun on a FMIC make sure you know exactly what FMIC he wants to run or guess what he will have to lose that CAI cause they all dont work..

And to your statement that the FMIC is the best upgrade a WRX can do.. I dont know what to say to that..

To the OP do your build for you and what you want for the car. There are plenty of great TMIC and FMIC it all depends on your goals with the car and of course budget.

[v8killah91]

Thanks for the great insights everyone. I think I'm going to stick with the TMIC.

[STI-LOS]

Originally Posted by v8killah91

Thanks for the great insights everyone. I think I'm going to stick with the TMIC.

Yeah kid that's what I like to hear... Let me know how you make out, or if you need help with anything..

[layza4sti]

v8killa what whp did you pull with the 20g and did your e-bay tmic hold up.
i'm thinking about a 20g but my tunner said he dosent know about my e-bay tmic and some times get's better whp with the stock tmic.. see my prob is if my tmic cant hold up then im going to go with a fmic and then want to go with a fp green"why have a fmic with a 20g". my goal's are 360 - 380 whp.. god to much research im going crazy, dont know what to do..

[STI-LOS]

Originally Posted by layza4sti

v8killa what whp did you pull with the 20g and did your e-bay tmic hold up.
i'm thinking about a 20g but my tunner said he dosent know about my e-bay tmic and some times get's better whp with the stock tmic.. see my prob is if my tmic cant hold up then im going to go with a fmic and then want to go with a fp green"why have a fmic with a 20g". my goal's are 360 - 380 whp.. god to much research im going crazy, dont know what to do..

I dont know how your tuner said the Stocker is better then your BIGGER TMIC regardless if its ebay or not.. The 20G is a perfect setup for the TMIC but a larger TMIC I would stick with you got if you want a 20G. But 360-380 with the 20G your gonna need meth it really depends on the dyno but the 20G is a 350WHP Turbo.. But you can get it no prob with Meth dude and you will have a killer setup, TD06 20G + Meth + TMIC oh yeah you will see that 380WHP and have no heatsoak issues.. And just so you know you can def run the Green with a TMIC, I would run that before a Green and a FMIC + LAG... If you really want 375++WHP and you want it on pump I would go with a SZ49.